Please help me

[fazalt]

Few days ago i got a LT anemone, gave it a FW dip for 1 min and moved it to the DT(i know stupid stupid stupid)

After 2 days one of my emperor angle fish developed a white patch on the tail. removed from the DT and gave a FWD and moved to the QT.

In the evening other emperor's skin looked patchy did the same thing to him.

Treated them with Flagyl and tetracycline.

both looked normal by about the 4th day. but on the 4th day evening one developed swollen belly and face, head was tilted wards the bottom.

Next day morning one died.

Then in the QT reduced the salinity to 1.009 and

the other guy normal now, swollen belly has reduced and tilts the head once in a way.

Can anyone help me identify what I'm dealing with here?

Thanks

Faz

 

[showstoppr88]

How big is your tank to have two emperor angelfish?

 

[snorvich]

Why fresh water dips? Why two Imperator angels? Why hyposalinity?

 

[ThRoewer]

1. Why would you give an anemone a freshwater bath? Even one minute is too long and likely to do damage to the anemone.

2. Anemones are highly unlikely to harbor fish diseases. Any possible danger would only come from the water the anemone was shipped in. A week or two with frequent 100% water changes would take care of that and would also be a good measure to ensure that the anemone is healthy itself.

3. The freshwater bath may have damaged the anemone and caused it to release a good number of its nematocysts into the water which then could cause skin irritation on fish.
Another possibility is that the anemone is dying and causing an ammonia spike. Ammonia burns can look like skin infections.

4. What are you planning to treat with all those medications?

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[fazalt]

@ThRoewer thanks for your advise. This makes sense and i shall follow the steps you've given in the future.

My tank size is 1000L and water parameters are as per the text book.

the anemone didn't have any issues excepts for lot of mucus for few hours and it settled on a rock and started feeding on the 2nd day on wards.

The emperors looked as though they are having Ich that's why i did hypo salinity and Flagyl.

when they developed the swollen belly and face i didn't know what to do and started on Teracycline.


one more thing i forgot to mention was they were twitching and scratching against rocks.

any idea what could this be ?

 

[ThRoewer]

Hyposalinity alone is usually enough to rid fish of the most common Cryptocaryon strains. There are two Taiwanese strains that handle lower salinities than reef fish can take, though they are so far fairly unlikely to be encountered in the ornamental fish trade.

The twitching and scratching can come from a wide variety of issues, from chemicals released by corals, high bacterial loads in the water, bacterial skin infections over the common protozoan parasites (Cryptocaryon, Amyloodinium,...) to infections with Monogeneans (skin & gill "flukes") or parasitic Crustacean.

Unless the symptoms are very clear cut (relatively well defined white spots that at first come and go in well defined waves and never stay longer than 5 days) I would not automatically assume Cryptocaryon but rather first exclude the other possibilities.

Also, Cryptocaryon usually takes weeks to show up in significant numbers after being introduced via inverts or rocks - 2 days is near impossible and even a week is rather unlikely for significant infection waves to show.

The swelling was most likely due to kidney damage. That fish may have been more sensitive to the medication or had a preexisting condition compromising its kidneys.