Possible Ich

[White Tiger]

It is true that stress can cause fin rot. Nevertheless, your fish did not get fin rot because of stress. For instance, fin rot due to stress occurs when a fish is cramped in a small space. Your angel was in a very large tank. Furthermore, fin rot due to stress can occur with bad water quality. Your water quality was not bad enough to cause fin rot.

Every time one of your fish gets ick, you should always assume that all of your fish have it if they are in the same tank.

 

[Reef4Fun]

If they are not sick, or show any signs, I would just put that off. Although, lowering the salinity will not harm them, what it does is kill of ich, and such. Just watch them, if you see signs, then lower it to around 1.009, 1.012 if you are treating with additives. You can also do this within a 24 - 36 hour period with no stress.

 

[jharler]

I might be going crazy, but I'm starting to see little tiny specs of orange in both of the clown's white stripes where I've never noticed them before. I also thought I noticed a few white spots a few days ago.

I'm going to go ahead and lower the salinity to 1.09 over the next few days and keep it that way for 6 weeks.

Thanks for everyone who has offered advice and information.

 

[jwadet1]

Trust Me, Your Fish has ICH! Treat it asap Irragardless of other recommendations and I highly suggest Hypo Salinty at 1.008sg As I am sure you'v seen on here. It Works! Just lower gradually bring back up Gradully once you notice the spots are gone,Usually at least two weeks but sometimes a month.
Low salinity will not harm your Fish If done properly and Gradually.It will increase your Fish's health!
Wade

 

[Freed]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7725992#post7725992 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jwadet1
bring back up Gradully once you notice the spots are gone,Usually at least two weeks but sometimes a month.

This is not what you want to do. You do want to use hypo but only start increasing the salinity 4-6 weeks AFTER THE VERY LAST SPOT OF ICH IS NOTED. Increasing too soon may allow the ich to survive and then you will be back to ground zero.

 

[Reef4Fun]

I agree with Freed

 

[White Tiger]

I agree with Freed as well.

 

[jharler]

Here's my plan. I'm going to drop the salinity down to 1.009. Once it's there, I will keep it there for 8 full weeks, feeding the fish garlic soaked pellets. After the 8 weeks, I will raise the salinity back to 1.025 over the course of a few days and then introduce the fish back into the display tank.

Does that sound like a good plan that will completely eradicate any possible parasites?

 

[Freed]

I don't know if it works on anything other than ich. You may want to look further into it. I know it doesn't work on velvet.

 

[White Tiger]

Just use copper instead of hyposalinity. Copper can get basically get rid of all parasites.

 

[sinz]

What kind of Garlic do you guys use? The crushed type that come in jars from the supermarkets ?

 

[Reef4Fun]

Yeah, if you have them in a QT tank, then you dont have to worry about harming anything, so you have the option of additives. But if it is only ich, lowering the salt will work. You could always start with that and if you notice any other illness, dose with the additives. Its just good to know about the salt method, especially when you have a tank full of sick fish with ich and need to treat them without harming the other tank mates.

 

[Reef4Fun]

They like that kind of garlic, I use garlic juice from the supermarket, either one is fine.

 

[Salty Bginners]

NEVER USE STRAIGHT GARLIC always always always use garlic extract or you run the rish of harming your fish

 

[sinz]

why cant you use straight garlic ? isnt that the same as crushed garlic in a jar ?

 

[Salty Bginners]

Because it has acids in it that can mess up fish's digestive tract and yes it is the same. So u use garlic extract (garlic juice) you can buy it for around $1.00 at a grocery store

 

[jharler]

Well, the larger clown has died. Late last night she was fine, I checked on them an hour ago and she was dead. The smaller one looks fine (like the other one did last night), but I don't expect him to last.

This is incredibly frustrating and heartbreaking because I was really attached to those clowns.

So have we decided that the coral beauty had something before I got him and that's what caused all these problems? I want to know for sure if I should avoid that LFS in the future.

 

[White Tiger]

If you buy a fish and it gets sick and dies, it does not always mean that the fish store that you bought the fish from is a bad store with a bad history. It was just your misfortune. The next time you buy fish, you should always ask these questions. Also, you should check for any visible signs of disease.

1. How long has that (whatever fish you want) been in that tank?
2. Is the tank dosed with copper?
3. Have you added any new fish to the tank where the (whatever fish you want) within 4 weeks?
4. Has it been behaving normally?

If the fish you want has no signs of disease, has been in a tank treated with copper for at least 4 weeks with no new fish added to the tank for 4 week, and if the fish has been behaving normally, it is probably safe to buy the fish and put it directly in your display tank. If the fish you want has not met any of the requirements, you can buy it, but put it in a quarintine tank when you get home.

 

[jharler]

The remaining clown fish has died as well. He was trying to hold on, but it was just too much for him.

What should I do to the quarantine tank to make sure that there is no trace of whatever killed these fish left? Should I throw away the media in the filter I'm using? I'll probably be getting new fish soon, but I want to make sure the QT is clean before doing so.

 

[White Tiger]

Rinse the quarintine tank with fresh water and let it dry completely for 3 days. Let your main tank cycle for 1 month before putting new fish in. You don't have to change the filter media. But you can if you want to.