Praises of Tank Transfer Method

[kmbyrnes]

Will or can? Both can be correct. If you add enough fish they each individual CAN bring ick, but over time , with enough additions, one WILL bring Ick.

It took me six years to get that fish that brought the Ick - tank wipe out.

I always TTM now

CAN be correct. But WILL in infers an absolutely certain.

 

[DougSupreme]

I am getting ready to set up my new tank and am seriously considering TTM during the move. I currently have 7 fish and an eel. How would the logistics of the TTM work? Would I try to to do the majority of the fish at once? One at a time?

 

[Thornbreaker]

I believe there's a sticky for the TTM method now. A quick search will find it.

If you're fish are healthy Doug you shouldn't need to do it for a new tank in your own home. If you suspect ick or have that problem, then yes you'll want to TTM or set up a med tank that can hold 7 fish.

For new fish, definitely TTM. And anything from the 5 gallon bucket set ups to more elaborate is doable. Just keep in mind you're switching buckets/tanks and equipment every 72 hours, have to clean those tanks out, and make sure they dry at least 24 hours before reuse.
Probably easier and more efficient to do one fish or two smaller (friendly) fish at a time. And the more fish, the more poop so you have to really watch the ammonia.
I've done 2 juvy clowns in 5 gallon buckets, and they were fine.
Doubt I'd do 2 adult tangs that way in a 5 gallon.

 

[zheka757]

how come no one cpmbine ttm with hyposalinity?
dosent it make sense to help in killing ick?

 

[sde1500]

how come no one cpmbine ttm with hyposalinity?

dosent it make sense to help in killing ick?

Why bother when TTM alone works just fine?

 

[DougSupreme]

I believe there's a sticky for the TTM method now. A quick search will find it.

If you're fish are healthy Doug you shouldn't need to do it for a new tank in your own home. If you suspect ick or have that problem, then yes you'll want to TTM or set up a med tank that can hold 7 fish.

I've had no problems with Ich, but I didn't QT any of my fish so far (lucky, I guess)

Since I'm doing a large upgrade, I was thinking it might be a good idea to "treat" all my existing fish to evade any problems in the future...

 

[_Mackus_]

I asked this question last week in the longer thread in the fish disease forum, but it got pushed off the front page and I doubt will be seen, so reposting in this thread, hope that's ok (and not hijacking). Is cutting TTM 2-3 days short as bad as having not TTM'd at all or would I reduce my risk of ich compared to not doing any treatment by 50%? 75%? 99%?



How much risk is it to cut the tank transfer method short a couple days? Only 9 or 10 days of total time instead of the 12?

I'm currently on Day 3 of TTM of a foxface and midas blenny. I intended to do the full normal TTM process (plus Prazi treatment) with next Monday being my Day 12 when I am complete and add the fish to my display. However, I now am unexpectedly going to have to leave town next weekend. I don't think I can get a fish-sitter with the competency to cover the last few days of TTM for me.

So how much risk would I be adding by completing after 9 days (3 72-hour transfers) and moving the fish to my display before leaving for the weekend? Am I better off adding the fish to my display after 9 days, or doing the last TTM on day 9 and then hoping those 2 fish are ok for 3 days without anyone around to feed them or add Prime to the water (I don't typically use any filtration)?

 

[tjm9331]

I asked this question last week in the longer thread in the fish disease forum, but it got pushed off the front page and I doubt will be seen, so reposting in this thread, hope that's ok (and not hijacking). Is cutting TTM 2-3 days short as bad as having not TTM'd at all or would I reduce my risk of ich compared to not doing any treatment by 50%? 75%? 99%?



How much risk is it to cut the tank transfer method short a couple days? Only 9 or 10 days of total time instead of the 12?

I'm currently on Day 3 of TTM of a foxface and midas blenny. I intended to do the full normal TTM process (plus Prazi treatment) with next Monday being my Day 12 when I am complete and add the fish to my display. However, I now am unexpectedly going to have to leave town next weekend. I don't think I can get a fish-sitter with the competency to cover the last few days of TTM for me.

So how much risk would I be adding by completing after 9 days (3 72-hour transfers) and moving the fish to my display before leaving for the weekend? Am I better off adding the fish to my display after 9 days, or doing the last TTM on day 9 and then hoping those 2 fish are ok for 3 days without anyone around to feed them or add Prime to the water (I don't typically use any filtration)?

Mackus, if you're going to be back from your trip by the end of the last transfer i.e. back on day 12 then I would go ahead and perform the last transfer. The fish will certainly survive without eating for those 3 days, don't drop any food in before you leave either and this will help keep any possible ammonia down. cutting TTM short even by 3 days is still a big risk for your DT, cause if there is even 1 stubborn parasite it will multiply quickly.

If you're going to be gone longer than say 4 days then you may have no choice but to move the fish to the DT, unless you have a more permanent QT you can move him to.

 

[_Mackus_]

Mackus, if you're going to be back from your trip by the end of the last transfer i.e. back on day 12 then I would go ahead and perform the last transfer. The fish will certainly survive without eating for those 3 days, don't drop any food in before you leave either and this will help keep any possible ammonia down. cutting TTM short even by 3 days is still a big risk for your DT, cause if there is even 1 stubborn parasite it will multiply quickly.

If you're going to be gone longer than say 4 days then you may have no choice but to move the fish to the DT, unless you have a more permanent QT you can move him to.

Thanks for the advice.

It would be like 3 1/2 days. I'm doing the final transfer tomorrow (Fri) morning and then I'm leaving. I will return Monday afternoon to early evening. So it's gonna be over 72 hours, but no more than 84 (3 1/2 days).

I'm not worried about feeding but I am worried about ammonia over that time. I've been getting non-zero ammonia readings of the water on day 2 of each transfer, I then add prime to neutralize. If I add prime to the water Friday morning will it fight off any ammonia that is added over the next few days?

 

[tjm9331]

Thanks for the advice.

It would be like 3 1/2 days. I'm doing the final transfer tomorrow (Fri) morning and then I'm leaving. I will return Monday afternoon to early evening. So it's gonna be over 72 hours, but no more than 84 (3 1/2 days).

I'm not worried about feeding but I am worried about ammonia over that time. I've been getting non-zero ammonia readings of the water on day 2 of each transfer, I then add prime to neutralize. If I add prime to the water Friday morning will it fight off any ammonia that is added over the next few days?

I'm honestly not sure if prime will neutralize the ammonia over the course of the 3 days if you add it on Friday, I want to say it will but I also don't want to be responsible if it doesn't.

If it were me I'd take the chance and add prime on Friday and leave him for those 3 1/2 days, I wouldn't want to take the chance of the 9 days ttm to not be sufficient and then introduce ich to the DT.

Ultimately it's up to you, your fish, your DT. without a dedicated QT tank your options are limited. leave him be for the duration of the trip or add him to the DT.

Good luck on which ever you decide and safe travels.