PraziPro

[MuffsAbby]

I'm a newbie to SW and I'm learning as I go along. I have QT'd my fish since I started, but I have not yet used any preventative treatments. Lately, I have read a lot on here suggesting the prophylactic use of PraziPro, so I'm considering using it going forward. I have read the various stickies, but I still have a few questions regarding PraziPro, namely:

a) Are there any downsides/risks to using PraziPro? If so, what? Anything I should be "œon guard" for after I dose?

b) Based on the instructions on the bottle, I take it you simply add Prazi to the water (after removing carbon, etc.) and leave it for 5-7 days. But the bottle doesn't say how to remove it from the water. Does it simply dissipate in 5-7 days? Or do you then need to start running carbon and/or do a large WC after the 5-7 days?

c) I currently have 5 fish in my DT, all of whom were QT'd but did not receive Prazi. All 5 fish are seemingly healthy, except my 2 chromis, who have white stringy poo, which my recent readings suggest is indicative of worms. Other than the stringy poo, they have no other symptoms, and they're still eating well. Given that situation, do you think I should also dose my DT? (My DT is fish-only, with no corals/inverts.)

d) Finally, how accurate does one have to be with the PraziPro dosage? I have no problem with my QT, since I know how much water I put in there, but I can only do an educated guess as to the water volume in my DT (given displacement, etc.). If my educated guess happens to be off a bit, will there be a problem?

 

[alprazo]

I have double dosed prazi pro with no problem. I now use powered praziquantil and the dose is twice that of prazipro.

Monogenea of the gills and skin are easy to recognize with a fresh water dip. You may just want to dip an anthias and see if it is clear. If so, you could probably forgo the prazi.

Praziquantil is the drug of choice.

 

[reefergeorge]

I have always used it on every new fish without any issues. I usually run two treatments over the course of an 8 week QT stay.

I run a HOB filter with carbon. I'm thinking when you put the carbon back in and do a WC that will remove it.

 

[Dr Colliebreath]

but I still have a few questions regarding PraziPro, namely:

a) Are there any downsides/risks to using PraziPro? If so, what? Anything I should be "œon guard" for after I dose?

None that I have run across. Fish seem to tolerate is well. There are some reports of appetite suppression, but I just make sure my fish are eating well before dosing. If the fish aren't eating due to worms, of course, the prazipro will get them eating.

b) Based on the instructions on the bottle, I take it you simply add Prazi to the water (after removing carbon, etc.) and leave it for 5-7 days. But the bottle doesn't say how to remove it from the water. Does it simply dissipate in 5-7 days? Or do you then need to start running carbon and/or do a large WC after the 5-7 days?

As far as I can tell, it dissipates although I never have found any really satisfactory answer. The instructions for a water change after the first dose seem to be aimed at removing biological matter if the prazipro killed worms. It isn't a bad idea to do a water change, but I have done back to back doses with no water change or carbon and didn't have any ill effects.

c) I currently have 5 fish in my DT, all of whom were QT'd but did not receive Prazi. All 5 fish are seemingly healthy, except my 2 chromis, who have white stringy poo, which my recent readings suggest is indicative of worms. Other than the stringy poo, they have no other symptoms, and they're still eating well. Given that situation, do you think I should also dose my DT? (My DT is fish-only, with no corals/inverts.)

While I haven't done it, people have reported dosing their DT with no ill effects. It sounds like prazipro is warranted for your chromis.

d) Finally, how accurate does one have to be with the PraziPro dosage? I have no problem with my QT, since I know how much water I put in there, but I can only do an educated guess as to the water volume in my DT (given displacement, etc.). If my educated guess happens to be off a bit, will there be a problem?

Only a guess, but I don't think you will have a problem if you are off by a small amount as fish appear to tolerate prazipro dosing so well.

 

[geaux xman]

i always dose a lot extra prazi also. never noticed any negative size effects.

 

[MuffsAbby]

Thanks for the responses! I will be doing a WC on my QT tomorrow and will try it on the QT first. I normally run a filter with carbon in my QT and do weekly WC's. So, I'll take the carbon out before dosing, and then put another filter back in after the week is up. I'll assume that plus another WC will take care of the PraziPro. Once I've given it a shot on my QT, and feel a bit more comfortable, I'll turn to my DT (it's always a little nerve-wrecking when you do something for the first time).

 

[aleonn]

I've dosed the reef tank with Prazi-Pro before without problems (except that my BTA wasn't as inflated during the treatment period). Usually I do a 5 day treatment, water change and carbon (to remove potential toxins from dead flukes), and another 5 day treatment to address possible eggs that are not killed from the initial treatment. Some reefers on this forum have done up to 4 treatments to eradicate eggs.

IMO, if one fish in the DT has flukes or parasites, then all fish potentially have it or at least are carriers.

During treatment you should remove the skimmer collection cup, but allow the skimmer pump to continue aerating/oxygenating the tank. If not, your pH may decrease and tank would not be as oxygenated.

Many reefers on RC have dosed their reef tanks with Prazi-Pro without issues, and this treatment is pretty much as reef safe a treatment as one can be IMO. Given your FOWLR system, I wouldn't be worried one bit IMO.

 

[mike54784]

doing some research on prazi pro, and I see a lot of people saying it is safe for corals, which isn't my concern, since I don't have any. I'm wondering how prazi pro will affect invertebrates, including hermet crabs, Nassarius snails, and a Porcelain crab? my fish aren't doing well, but I cant see anything that looks wrong with them on the outside. Thinking it is an internal parasite. I've also read that some medications should not be used in a tank with angel fish (I have a coral beauty). Also, does this product contain copper? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[coral_lagoon]

Prazipro is safe.I found out first hand when my assistant dosed over 4 tablespoons of Prazipro in my 125 gallon. To my amazement none of the fish died. Some of the fish did react to the overdose, like pooping, regurgitating the foods in their stomachs,but this is like quadruple the overdose scenario. After 3 days they were back to normal. Eating and looking good. The flukes, they were destroyed. Never needed a second treatment..

 

[Spar]

I am seeing a lot of posts saying Overdosing is OK (within reason). Any thoughts/experience into whether it should be overdosed for maximum effectiveness? Or is going by the directions on the bottle sufficient enough?

 

[alprazo]

The problem that most people have with prazi is the bacterial bloom from the solution it is in. Either alcohol or some other organic solvent is used to put the stff onto solution. It causes a bacterial bloom,
ike dosing vodka or vinegar, and results on lower the dissolved oxygen concentration. It is not uncommon to hear that someone's fish died a day or two after dosing prazi. It is because the oxygen levels dropped too much. Th powder is the safest way to dose IMO.

The dosing on the bottle is sufficient for most, I do recommend redosing in around week

 

[Kurious reefer]

I'm a newbie to SW and I'm learning as I go along. I have QT'd my fish since I started, but I have not yet used any preventative treatments. Lately, I have read a lot on here suggesting the prophylactic use of PraziPro, so I'm considering using it going forward. I have read the various stickies, but I still have a few questions regarding PraziPro, namely:

a) Are there any downsides/risks to using PraziPro? If so, what? Anything I should be "œon guard" for after I dose?

b) Based on the instructions on the bottle, I take it you simply add Prazi to the water (after removing carbon, etc.) and leave it for 5-7 days. But the bottle doesn't say how to remove it from the water. Does it simply dissipate in 5-7 days? Or do you then need to start running carbon and/or do a large WC after the 5-7 days?

c) I currently have 5 fish in my DT, all of whom were QT'd but did not receive Prazi. All 5 fish are seemingly healthy, except my 2 chromis, who have white stringy poo, which my recent readings suggest is indicative of worms. Other than the stringy poo, they have no other symptoms, and they're still eating well. Given that situation, do you think I should also dose my DT? (My DT is fish-only, with no corals/inverts.)

d) Finally, how accurate does one have to be with the PraziPro dosage? I have no problem with my QT, since I know how much water I put in there, but I can only do an educated guess as to the water volume in my DT (given displacement, etc.). If my educated guess happens to be off a bit, will there be a problem?