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i realize this is a fish forum.. hoping some of you pros can point me in the right direction.

My Epson R2400 is printing dark. Really Dark.

Calibrated Monitor using Spyder 2 pro
ICC profiles for paper installed
Latest Epson driver installed

Color space on camera, and lightroom 3 are at Adobe 1998

Printing - selecting ICM and "no color management" - i.e. screw off printer and don't adjust nothing.

Way to dark photos.

I'm like *** and tired of 13x19 prints that have lost all detail in the dark tones.

Pls help...
- the mushroom
 
I had issues with prints being dark despite a calibrated monitor. I noticed two things helped a lot, one of which you've already done.

1. Make sure camera, software and printer are all using the same color space.
2. I checked "Photoshop manages colors". I would guess LR has a similar checkbox.

Print are still a touch darker but ever so much better and roughly in the ballpark of the original shot.
 
I have had the exact same issue w/ LR3 and the spyder3 on my monitors! I actually gave away my spyder b/c of this! That and it can't profile one of my Dell Ultrasharp monitors!
 
I always just get them printed, turn out perfect to what I see on the screen, if they don't I tell them to do it again.
I don't think the consumer grade printers are good enough yet (or cost effective, for anything outside snapshots.
 
If your prints are too dark, your monitor is too bright. Calibration matches color, brightness is a bit more subjective and most folks like their display brighter than it needs to be.
 
Jeff000 said:
I always just get them printed, turn out perfect to what I see on the screen, if they don't I tell them to do it again.
I don't think the consumer grade printers are good enough yet (or cost effective, for anything outside snapshots.
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The R2400 isn't your average photo printer. It cost ~900 new and a set of ink carts for it will set you back over $110. Its a professional printer.
 
beerguy said:
The R2400 isn't your average photo printer. It cost ~900 new and a set of ink carts for it will set you back over $110. Its a professional printer.
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A professional photo printer costs more then 10 grand.
The guy who does mine just got a new 180,000 dollar printer.

And at that cost you will probably never see a cost advantage to printing them yourself.
 
Jeff000 said:
A professional photo printer costs more then 10 grand.
The guy who does mine just got a new 180,000 dollar printer.

And at that cost you will probably never see a cost advantage to printing them yourself.
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Sorry, but you don't need a $10K (or $180K) printer to make professional prints. :lol:

I do all my web print fulfillment via a vendor (who probably DOES have an $180K printer) but I do all the rest of my printing myself; i.e. anything I sell via galleries, product at shows, custom sizes or personal requests. Also, for what it's worth, the prints I make myself sell for several hundred dollars more than those from my site.
 
beerguy said:
If your prints are too dark, your monitor is too bright. Calibration matches color, brightness is a bit more subjective and most folks like their display brighter than it needs to be.
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gamma is set at 2.2 (as per PC defaults) and color temp is 6500k...

i think i'll try to darken the brigthness on the monitor till it looks like a photo i printed then adjust the digital photo to what I want and re-print... (kind of a long way around but it might work.)

and yes sir.. the K3 ink is frigg'n expensive... :(

but walmart photo printing sucks when you're trying to be precise... good for snaps though... cheaper often too.
 
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