Project 150!!
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maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
I'm on midnights as of tomorrow, so I should have more time for things that are tank related....
But, there's not alot to do at the moment.
I hooked up the VHO's which will be run for a few hours daily, (Dawn/Dusk). The most annoying part of hooking up Icecap 430 ballast is keeping the rats nest of wires straight and semi organized. Zip ties and cable brackets helped to keep things decent.
The new black cap basslet is in the 120, but I've got it in a small net breeder to keep it from disappearing in the tank. I want to make sure its eating well before I release it. I figure thats gonna take about a week or two.
Once the blackcap is adjusted and eating well, I'll start to move things over.
I need to get some chaetomorphia for the sump....
Nick
But, there's not alot to do at the moment.
I hooked up the VHO's which will be run for a few hours daily, (Dawn/Dusk). The most annoying part of hooking up Icecap 430 ballast is keeping the rats nest of wires straight and semi organized. Zip ties and cable brackets helped to keep things decent.
The new black cap basslet is in the 120, but I've got it in a small net breeder to keep it from disappearing in the tank. I want to make sure its eating well before I release it. I figure thats gonna take about a week or two.
Once the blackcap is adjusted and eating well, I'll start to move things over.
I need to get some chaetomorphia for the sump....
Nick
maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
Thought I'd post up some pics of my Red Sea Regal Angel.
I got her Sept 24th of 06 from www.phishybusiness.com
She's gotten fat in the tank...which is nice. Please disregard all the bubbles etc in the water...if I turned off the pumps, she'd hide
She's about 4 inches in length and eats primarily brocolli, but also inhales mysis, brineshrimp and other meaty foods. She wont go near Nori and completely ignores Angel Formula frozen food...
Nick
I got her Sept 24th of 06 from www.phishybusiness.com
She's gotten fat in the tank...which is nice. Please disregard all the bubbles etc in the water...if I turned off the pumps, she'd hide
She's about 4 inches in length and eats primarily brocolli, but also inhales mysis, brineshrimp and other meaty foods. She wont go near Nori and completely ignores Angel Formula frozen food...
Nick
maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
The Blackcap is in the main tank now, and eating decently...but not as voraciously as I'd like. I'm also seeing a small white spot on the stomach of the rabbitfish that looks like it might be a small parasite infestation. I'm seriously considering dropping the specific gravity of the 120 down to 1.015 or lower for a few days just to nuke any potential worms that might be inside either of the two new fish. I'd be irate if I managed to infect the healthy fish currently in the 58 with something from the rabbit and black cap...
Whatcha think?
Nick
Whatcha think?
Nick
maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
ReeallY!!!!!
Thats interesting/horrifying. I'd never seen or heard of him doing that before.....
Thus far, my Regal has been a model citizen...no munching on SPS or my clams. I put some zoo's in there just to test as they are famous for munching on them...nothing. She's interested in broccoli and the food I put in there, thats it.
Nick
Thats interesting/horrifying. I'd never seen or heard of him doing that before.....
Thus far, my Regal has been a model citizen...no munching on SPS or my clams. I put some zoo's in there just to test as they are famous for munching on them...nothing. She's interested in broccoli and the food I put in there, thats it.
Nick
Pkelley228
New member
Haven't had that problem with my imperator as of yet, and hopefully won't. I do make sure it's well fed though!
maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
Hows the imperator doing Pat? Post pics up if you can....not much going on with system at the moment, so we might as well see some pics from someone!
I ordered a fish trap from Dr Fosters & Smith today. Should get here some time next week. I want to trap the Virgate Rabbitfish, and give it a freshwater dip for a few minutes to ensure its not infested with any worms. As more time goes on, I'm thinking its not a parasite, but more of a small scar or something similar on the fish. But I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Once I've dipped it, I will lower the salinity of the 120 down to 1.012 for a few weeks, and start trapping the fish in the 58. They will also get a freshwater dip for a few minutes, and then be placed in the 120.
The goal is to ensure the 120 is free of any internal or microscopic parasites, namely ich. Every time I added a new fish, or had some sort of stressful event in the tank, (58 gallon), I would have a minor outbreak of ich. It would only last a few days, and never got to the point of having many spots on the fish, but I know its there. So I will leave the 58 gallon fish free for 8 weeks to starve out any ich left in the tank. The hyposalinity in the 120 will kill of any ich harbored inside the fish that is not visible.
After 4 weeks of hyposalinity, I will begin to increase the salinity slowly and bring it back to normal levels. After that is accomplished, I will transfer the inverts, (H.magnifica anemone, corals, clams, shrimp and crabs), and the rock work over to the 120.
I've decided to go this annoying, slow route because I've always wanted a Powder Blue Tang. I dont have one now, and would need to get rid of the Virgate Rabbitfish to have room for it...but its a future possibility. They are such ich magnets that you really need to insure that the tank is free of it (IMO) to ensure a decent chance long term with them.
Of course, going through all of this means that I will need to QT everything that comes into the tank from here on out...including corals. But since I'll have an empty 58 gallon, that shouldnt be a real problem.
Nick
I ordered a fish trap from Dr Fosters & Smith today. Should get here some time next week. I want to trap the Virgate Rabbitfish, and give it a freshwater dip for a few minutes to ensure its not infested with any worms. As more time goes on, I'm thinking its not a parasite, but more of a small scar or something similar on the fish. But I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Once I've dipped it, I will lower the salinity of the 120 down to 1.012 for a few weeks, and start trapping the fish in the 58. They will also get a freshwater dip for a few minutes, and then be placed in the 120.
The goal is to ensure the 120 is free of any internal or microscopic parasites, namely ich. Every time I added a new fish, or had some sort of stressful event in the tank, (58 gallon), I would have a minor outbreak of ich. It would only last a few days, and never got to the point of having many spots on the fish, but I know its there. So I will leave the 58 gallon fish free for 8 weeks to starve out any ich left in the tank. The hyposalinity in the 120 will kill of any ich harbored inside the fish that is not visible.
After 4 weeks of hyposalinity, I will begin to increase the salinity slowly and bring it back to normal levels. After that is accomplished, I will transfer the inverts, (H.magnifica anemone, corals, clams, shrimp and crabs), and the rock work over to the 120.
I've decided to go this annoying, slow route because I've always wanted a Powder Blue Tang. I dont have one now, and would need to get rid of the Virgate Rabbitfish to have room for it...but its a future possibility. They are such ich magnets that you really need to insure that the tank is free of it (IMO) to ensure a decent chance long term with them.
Of course, going through all of this means that I will need to QT everything that comes into the tank from here on out...including corals. But since I'll have an empty 58 gallon, that shouldnt be a real problem.
Nick
maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
The fish trap arrived today. Its actually a pretty decent one, IMO. Got it at Drs Foster & Smith, AquaMedic Fish Trap. Its the same type the LFS carries and rents to people for $5.00 a day, after a $60.00 deposit. I've had to rent the damn thing from them 3 times now, and never got away with using less than 2 weeks.....so I figured I'd just buy this one and have it to use on my own.
Its been in the tank less than 5 minutes. I figured since the rabbitfish is so skittish, it would a week or so before I could entice it in and capture it for a freshwater dip. I put some broccoli on a clip for it, in the trap, and as usual, couldnt get my fingers out of the way fast enough....:lol:
So it doesnt appear that I'll be having any trouble getting it out for the dip...
When I do this dip for external parasites/internal worms....should I go ahead and add some Prazi-pro to the water to hit any potential worms harder? I have plenty left over from a previous attempt at killing off AEFW's.....
The Blackcap continues to eat more aggressively, and has definately taken to the one piece of rock in there...he's already figured out about 6 different holes that are interconnecting inside....so I'm definately feeling better about mixing him with the Royal Gramma, even though its almost twice his size. I'm figuring the Royal will have his current hidey hole to hang out in, (which will be across the tank from the Blackcap's spot), and the black cap will be able to defend his territory pretty easily.
Nick
Its been in the tank less than 5 minutes. I figured since the rabbitfish is so skittish, it would a week or so before I could entice it in and capture it for a freshwater dip. I put some broccoli on a clip for it, in the trap, and as usual, couldnt get my fingers out of the way fast enough....:lol:
So it doesnt appear that I'll be having any trouble getting it out for the dip...
When I do this dip for external parasites/internal worms....should I go ahead and add some Prazi-pro to the water to hit any potential worms harder? I have plenty left over from a previous attempt at killing off AEFW's.....
The Blackcap continues to eat more aggressively, and has definately taken to the one piece of rock in there...he's already figured out about 6 different holes that are interconnecting inside....so I'm definately feeling better about mixing him with the Royal Gramma, even though its almost twice his size. I'm figuring the Royal will have his current hidey hole to hang out in, (which will be across the tank from the Blackcap's spot), and the black cap will be able to defend his territory pretty easily.
Nick
geoxman
Premium Member
I'm hoping the Virgate rabbit doesnt eat zoas....I was wanting to put some in the tank
Hey Nic the new tank looks awesome-as always the workmanship seems top notch!
After you treat the rabbit for disease you are more than welcome to some of my zoos.
I am getting Rs2208's clam back for quite some time and I have quite a few that you can have to see if he will eat them. JLMK
It will only cost you a beer at the Pageant and you can have as many experiments as you want-again great looking set up! Good luck
Hey Nic the new tank looks awesome-as always the workmanship seems top notch!
After you treat the rabbit for disease you are more than welcome to some of my zoos.
I am getting Rs2208's clam back for quite some time and I have quite a few that you can have to see if he will eat them. JLMK
It will only cost you a beer at the Pageant and you can have as many experiments as you want-again great looking set up! Good luck
maxxII
Super Housemonkey!
Hey Phil,
Thanks for the kind words....
After a lot of thought and talking with a guy who really knows about fish diseases, I've decided against treating the rabbitfish for worms. Instead, I'm going to trap the fish from the 58 and bring them over to the 120, and then go hyposalinity. My main concern is ich...which is really kinda a non issue since my fish have all demonstrated a tolerance for it.....but I'd rather have the option in the future of going with a powder blue tang if I find one I really want.
The trap is currently in the 58 gallon tank, and those fish are alot more suspicious than the rabbit is. I figure this will take a few days to get them used to it....and then when I catch one, I'l have to start all over again.
Thanks for the offer of the Zoas Phil, but I dont have room in the 58 for a large colony like you had posted about earlier, and I'm planning on dropping the salinity of the 120 down to 1.010 - 1.012 for 8 weeks. After that, if you still need to room, I'll be happy to help out.
Some reading for folks who are interested in learning more about fish disease, QT reccomendations, and general fish health type questions to include feeding suggestions...
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15
Nick
Thanks for the kind words....
After a lot of thought and talking with a guy who really knows about fish diseases, I've decided against treating the rabbitfish for worms. Instead, I'm going to trap the fish from the 58 and bring them over to the 120, and then go hyposalinity. My main concern is ich...which is really kinda a non issue since my fish have all demonstrated a tolerance for it.....but I'd rather have the option in the future of going with a powder blue tang if I find one I really want.
The trap is currently in the 58 gallon tank, and those fish are alot more suspicious than the rabbit is. I figure this will take a few days to get them used to it....and then when I catch one, I'l have to start all over again.
Thanks for the offer of the Zoas Phil, but I dont have room in the 58 for a large colony like you had posted about earlier, and I'm planning on dropping the salinity of the 120 down to 1.010 - 1.012 for 8 weeks. After that, if you still need to room, I'll be happy to help out.
Some reading for folks who are interested in learning more about fish disease, QT reccomendations, and general fish health type questions to include feeding suggestions...
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=15
Nick
jnarowe
New member
I had ich in my system with a variety of tangs including a PBT, and with proper nutrition he fought it off and it has not come back. I made sure they had a lot of frozen foods to eat that was soaked in vitamins and garlic guard. I fed 3 times per day.
In the beginning I thought I would have to trap the PBT because he looked pretty bad, but I couldn't get him into the trap, and in the meantime, feeding helped him overcome it.
In the beginning I thought I would have to trap the PBT because he looked pretty bad, but I couldn't get him into the trap, and in the meantime, feeding helped him overcome it.
geoxman
Premium Member
I can cut what ever size you want to experiment with. I would try 2 to 3 20-30 polyp frag of dodo zoos and see what happens. Anyway great looking setup! Let me know if you want some for an experiment and I can drop them off the Pageant some weekend night when you are there. good luck!
