Proof that Oceanic Salt is BAD!!!!
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juststartingout
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alrha said:
Can you tell us how it tested out (alk ca mg, ph) just curious. I have been thinking of using TM Pro, but not sure if the price of Pro is worth it, over the regular TM. I have never seen a complaint on TM.
alrha
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if you do a search, you will see all those results (dont want to derail this "bash oceanic" thread).
I believe is just has more Ca and Mg than the regular TM. so you would have to calculate the cost of those additives to bring those levels up, plus the cost of convenience for the added step to mix them in.
I believe is just has more Ca and Mg than the regular TM. so you would have to calculate the cost of those additives to bring those levels up, plus the cost of convenience for the added step to mix them in.
ebacon
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So from what im gathering, despite my meticulously built circulation system including a basment sump, euro reef skimmer and an abundance of mangroves and Cheato (MacroAlgae) Very little feeding and an extreme amount of high intensity light from both my 800.00 power compact system and direct intense afternoon light from the sun the reasoning for the brown fuzz on the side of my tank may be from the salt??
AlienSpawn
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I still have no scientific proof but deductive reasoning leads me to believe that Oceanic salt encourages cyanobacteria growth and possibly hair algea. Nothing else has changed in my tank that has been established for years and I have NEVER had a cyano problem before. A little hair algea is trying to grow too. Since you mentioned sunlight, I heard somewhere that direct sunlight in a tank can lead to algea problems. Has anyone heard this before??
SptfireXIV
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This thread makes me sad.
One person thinks that Oceanic Salt is giving him algae problems, and everybody else who has a fish tank, uses oceanic salt, and has algae automatically blames the salt. Thats pretty sad.
You guys go ahead with your witch hunt, but next time I have an algae problem I'll place the blame where it belongs, on bad husbandry.
One person thinks that Oceanic Salt is giving him algae problems, and everybody else who has a fish tank, uses oceanic salt, and has algae automatically blames the salt. Thats pretty sad.
You guys go ahead with your witch hunt, but next time I have an algae problem I'll place the blame where it belongs, on bad husbandry.
gatohoser
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And I'm going to have to defend them. Their algae's seem to be of a different sort than the normal diatomaceous ones. They are the brown slime. Im sure 75% of the people posting here with problems just have bad husbandry but there was at least one undeniable case (the original).
Ebacon,
The reason you have brown algae is because you have sunlight shining on your tank from the side. In the presence of even low amounts of nutrients sunlight will give you large algal blooms. Keep it protected unless you're lighting with natural light and then prepare accordingly. You also have nutrients in your tank which is feeding the bloom but i'm willing to bet if you block the afternoon sun it will take a fat chunk out of your problem.
Ebacon,
The reason you have brown algae is because you have sunlight shining on your tank from the side. In the presence of even low amounts of nutrients sunlight will give you large algal blooms. Keep it protected unless you're lighting with natural light and then prepare accordingly. You also have nutrients in your tank which is feeding the bloom but i'm willing to bet if you block the afternoon sun it will take a fat chunk out of your problem.
ebacon
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gatohoser,
I understand what you are saying but I am not sure if I agree for three reasons.
1) The sunlight I am talking about is absolutly direct and intense. So much so that In the summer I cant go in the front door otherwise I will burn my hand. (weird I know but for some reason the sun shines directly on the front door and windows of the house at least 4 - 6 hours a day. dumb luck I suppose)
2) There are many people who have actually installed skylights and reflective tubing in the ceilings for the specific reason of lighting the tanks and corals.
3) There are many others who get this slime in a room with no windows, also my direct sun "experiment" only supplements a already very intense power compact lighting system.
So if what you are saying is true (and it very well could be) why do so many others light with skylights and natural sunlight?
Wouldnt any amount of light regardless of its intensity encourage diatom algae growth?
I understand what you are saying but I am not sure if I agree for three reasons.
1) The sunlight I am talking about is absolutly direct and intense. So much so that In the summer I cant go in the front door otherwise I will burn my hand. (weird I know but for some reason the sun shines directly on the front door and windows of the house at least 4 - 6 hours a day. dumb luck I suppose)
2) There are many people who have actually installed skylights and reflective tubing in the ceilings for the specific reason of lighting the tanks and corals.
3) There are many others who get this slime in a room with no windows, also my direct sun "experiment" only supplements a already very intense power compact lighting system.
So if what you are saying is true (and it very well could be) why do so many others light with skylights and natural sunlight?
Wouldnt any amount of light regardless of its intensity encourage diatom algae growth?
gatohoser
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Well first,
There are not many people using skylights at all on a display tank. There's only a handful. How they do it is by having incredible husbandry and 0 nutrient levels.
Your pc lights do not come close to natural sunlight if it is direct. It would take stacked pc's to compare. And theyd have to be all be in the 6500k spectrum (beneficial for photosynthesis and therefore algae blooms). Many other do get slime and 99.9% of the time its from bad husbandry. I've done the sidelight thing with the sun and it causes algal blooms in a less than perfect tank.
There are not many people using skylights at all on a display tank. There's only a handful. How they do it is by having incredible husbandry and 0 nutrient levels.
Your pc lights do not come close to natural sunlight if it is direct. It would take stacked pc's to compare. And theyd have to be all be in the 6500k spectrum (beneficial for photosynthesis and therefore algae blooms). Many other do get slime and 99.9% of the time its from bad husbandry. I've done the sidelight thing with the sun and it causes algal blooms in a less than perfect tank.
jay24k
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Blaming people on bad tank habits is uncalled for imo. I treat my tank very well. For 15 months, I never had a ounce of hair algae. The only variable that changed was my salt. What does that say? The more water changes I do, the worse it gets. I got a new bucket, ripped out my hair algae and used the new bucket of Oceanic and time will tell but it isn't getting any noticebly worse. However, my hair algae kind of grew slow. I'm going to dump this whole bucket in my 180 and then probably try Tropic Marin Pro as I've seen good results from local people with that.
