Proper pH 8.2

mxmarks

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I've been battling low pH for awhile (7.8ish), and recently purchased Proper pH 8.2. I read the instructions throughly, and looked online and found some positive reviews.

I did however find some reports that it would cause the pH to shoot WAY up, before getting to 8.2. It also said it contained aloe, to help aid in the healing of fish. I have a fish with cloudy eye (that I've bothered you all about NUMEROUS times already!), and thought that raising the pH would help him fight off whatever it was, while my hospital tank adjusts (since he's breathing normal, I thought it would be in the fish's best interest to make sure my temperature was the same and salt had time to mix while I was at work today, instead of adding him before I left when I wouldnt have time to observe him).

So I added 2 packets of Proper pH 8.2 (each packet says treats 20 gallons) to my 75gallon tank. I was afraid of raising the pH too suddenly, and was nervous it would spike too high, so I thought adding enough to slightly raise it before work, and another packet and a half tomorrow would be alright.

The stuff was like snowflakes, and was all over the rocks as it mixed. I was concerned that my Nudibranch wasn't liking what was happening, as he kind of reared up and was on the move. The fish didn't seem to mind.

I've done a lot of searches and haven't found anything that says this will hurt the inverts, and the stuff says online and on the packet its totally reef safe, and can be added to an existing tank. The only warning it had was to check for ammonia first, and I did (came out 0).

Should I be worried? Has anyone ever used this stuff before?
 
can you give us a link on it? if so we can have a look at it and let you know, personally ive never heard of it and would be suprised if it worked
 
Been there, done that

Yes your livestock is not happy right now. I did the exact same thing. Everything should come back, some things may take 24-48 hours to look normal.

Next time>>

You want to mix it up with tank water and pour it into the sump. It works fine as a buffer, but I think someone said there is something in it that is not really desirable for your tank. I don't remember what, but I've used it a couple times. I'm sure someone else will sound off.

What salt mix are you using? You may want to check out the reef chemistry forum on salt mixes. I've switched to Kent salt and it seems much more stable to me than Instant Ocean for PH, Alk, etc. Tons of people use IO though.
 
Your efforts would be better spent trying to address the reason for the low pH.

Most pH buffers only provide a temporary spike that won't last.
 
Thanks - Ive bookmarked that link and will keep on trying things. pH has become the most frusterating part of the hobby so far!

Also - Im using Instant Ocean, but would switch to Kent and see if it helps. Is all salt mix the same to my aquarium, or will the fish be able to tell that I've switched salt brands?
 
Instant Ocean should be just fine. Read the link Michael provided fully, and that should help immensely. Ask questions if you have any. I'd avoid using buffers to affect PH in a reef tank. They do it by raising alkalinity, and some have chemicals that aren't well suited for reef aquaria. And as Tswifty8 said, they're only a temporary solution. I've found water surface agitation (i.e. getting your pumps/powerheads to ripple the surface of your water) and adding kalkwasser to be the best solutions for low PH. The latter is seldom necessary, but has other benefits.

As for aloe, that's kind of a new one for me. I have no idea whether or not it would cause any harm to the tank, but I'd be very skeptical as to its healing effects on fish.
 
Thanks - my alk has tested in the "okay" range (the color chart I use classifies things as "low" "okay" "best" "high"), but my pH is always around 7.8 and low. I'm going to try and digest that article - its a lot of stuff. My tank is in a corner with no windows nearby, that may be a factor.

If I have anymore questions I'll be back on here, I'm sure. I'm just relieved that while my fish and inverts are not happy right now, I didn't give them a death sentence by trying to help.
 
Buffers are never the best way to boost low pH. Limewater and aeration with fresh air are the best options, and a second best is using a high pH two part system like B-ionic or my DIY Recipe #1 when you do need alkalinity. :)

The salt mix choice is not impacting the pH. It is ONLY the alkalinity and the CO2 level in the tank that determines the tank pH.
 
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