Quarantine New Inverts?
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Dkuhlmann
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Aspen, there are answers to both sides of most anything you can want to look for in this hobby. You need to do what makes sense to you. For instance I don't QT my fish either, never have and I've been in reefing for a long time. I took a 10 year break and just got back in about a year ago.
I also don't worry about matching salinity when I get new fish. I do the old tried and true acclimation method that Live Aquaria suggests. It is to open the bag after temp acclimation for 15 minutes, then put 1/2 cup of tank water in the bag every 4 minutes until the bag is full. Then dump out half of the water in the bag and repeat every 4 minutes until full again, then put the fish in your QT or DT whichever you prefer. I add to this a cap full of Prime or Amquel as soon as I open the bag to help combat the ammonia that becomes toxic in the bag once oxygen is added to it upon opening the bag. It doesn't matter to me what the starting SG is in the bag. I've done it this way for many many fish and never lost one to acclimation process. If LA suggests this as their preferred method and they warranty their fish for 14 days, then I say do that.
I also don't believe that ich can be transferred to your tank on any of your cuc members or from corals. I do temp acclimate all of them for 15 minutes by floating the bag then I dump them in. With corals I do a dip in Revive and in Coral RX. With the fish I also do a Formalin dip which will kill most any parasite that the fish could have. I do this dip for 10 minutes.
So you see it can be successful in more ways than one, but it's your decision to do what you think is best for your tank and your critters!
I also don't worry about matching salinity when I get new fish. I do the old tried and true acclimation method that Live Aquaria suggests. It is to open the bag after temp acclimation for 15 minutes, then put 1/2 cup of tank water in the bag every 4 minutes until the bag is full. Then dump out half of the water in the bag and repeat every 4 minutes until full again, then put the fish in your QT or DT whichever you prefer. I add to this a cap full of Prime or Amquel as soon as I open the bag to help combat the ammonia that becomes toxic in the bag once oxygen is added to it upon opening the bag. It doesn't matter to me what the starting SG is in the bag. I've done it this way for many many fish and never lost one to acclimation process. If LA suggests this as their preferred method and they warranty their fish for 14 days, then I say do that.
I also don't believe that ich can be transferred to your tank on any of your cuc members or from corals. I do temp acclimate all of them for 15 minutes by floating the bag then I dump them in. With corals I do a dip in Revive and in Coral RX. With the fish I also do a Formalin dip which will kill most any parasite that the fish could have. I do this dip for 10 minutes.
So you see it can be successful in more ways than one, but it's your decision to do what you think is best for your tank and your critters!
Stickgal
New member
Dkuhlman please repost acclimation
Dkuhlman please repost acclimation
Hi:
Yesterday while searching re: whether to quarantine, I ran across a post I believe was by you similar to the one above, but you referenced using a specimen box? I can't find it now and I want to write down the process and the treatments I need to purchase to use this method. I did set up a small qt tank that I'm cycling, but don't really want to have to run one the whole time I'm adding fish.
Dkuhlman please repost acclimation
Hi:
Yesterday while searching re: whether to quarantine, I ran across a post I believe was by you similar to the one above, but you referenced using a specimen box? I can't find it now and I want to write down the process and the treatments I need to purchase to use this method. I did set up a small qt tank that I'm cycling, but don't really want to have to run one the whole time I'm adding fish.
aspen1990
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4 stages in the Cryptocaryons life cycle
1- Trophont-this is the parasitic stage on the fish
2- Protomont-this is where the parasite leaves the fish to encyst on the substrate to reproduce.
3-Tomont- This is the reproductive and longest lived stage
4-Theront- Free swimming looking for a host.
The trophonts will mature and leave the fish after 3-7 days
The Protomont will encyst within 24 hours
The Tomont can last up to 72 days(in rare cases).
The Theront will die within 24 hours without a host.
So I guess I'm wondering, if there are no fish in the QT tank, is a 72 Day wait period necessary with inverts? Since it can't survive longer than 24 hrs without a fish host, could I get away with a much shorter QT period?
1- Trophont-this is the parasitic stage on the fish
2- Protomont-this is where the parasite leaves the fish to encyst on the substrate to reproduce.
3-Tomont- This is the reproductive and longest lived stage
4-Theront- Free swimming looking for a host.
The trophonts will mature and leave the fish after 3-7 days
The Protomont will encyst within 24 hours
The Tomont can last up to 72 days(in rare cases).
The Theront will die within 24 hours without a host.
So I guess I'm wondering, if there are no fish in the QT tank, is a 72 Day wait period necessary with inverts? Since it can't survive longer than 24 hrs without a fish host, could I get away with a much shorter QT period?
triksrevival
Member
I never used to qt inverts until I got dinos in December from a sea hare. Still battling them, but winning. Take the chance if you dare but I will never throw anything straight into dt again. I bought it from a reputable online store also.
aspen1990
New member
Ah, touché.. Okay, suppose I'll be QT-ing everyone then
no corner cutting on the inverts..
