Quick ? About Treating AEFW

I cant ad a second tank separate from the system, bc I just cant be making sure both tanks are in balance chemically. I was thinking that I could add on a tank off of my current sump and have a filter sock on the return to prevent any aefw from reentering the sump. I am going to do a series of dips over a 3-4 week period. Do you think this idea is feasible?

All of my acros are mini colonies attached to rubble so everything is removable.
 
Why not keep them in the display where they are and just remove them weekly for the dips? I would do at least 4 for a small outbreak and defiantly more if its bad.
 
Because sometimes I cant detect the eggs or if I see them I dont want them to hatch and spread to other acros that are not infected
 
That's why you remove every single colony weekly for treatment. Then put back in the display after the dip and scrape. If you don't great every single piece your chances of eradicating them is slim to none.
Ime dipping every colony and frag was easier than setting up a quick non thoughtout and unstable qt tank. That's the only way I have lost acros from aefw when I had them. The corals did much better when they went straight back into the display tank after each dip.
 
If they feed on acros, what makes them leave a colony before it is depleted/dead. It seems to me that instinct would take over and they would not leave? It seems that there is some mechanism for wide distribution/dispersion.
 
They are parasites. Parasites don't kill their host, so they move on. They float/swim/crawl to other coral.

Separate tank is required unless all your sps are off the rock work.
 
There has only been one scientific paper on these creatures and it noted that they can swim in the water column but appear to prefer to stay where they are. My personal opinion is that the initial advice given to "turkey baste" corals in an attempt to rid the corals of the pest actually served to spread them in peoples tanks.

On a separate note and with the caveat that one story does not assure success by any means, I will add that I removed my whole reef, cut off all the bases of my corals, glued the living tissue to frag plugs, put all new live rock with frag plug holes back into the reef, dipped all my corals in Bayer, and then replaced the corals in my newly aquascaped reef.

But . . .

I only did this once. That was over two months ago and I have not yet seen any sign of AEFWs in my tank. The point is I was able to avoid the multiple dip strategy.

I had help from two local reefers. One of the gentlemen who helped works with insecticides for a living and he claims the ingredients in Bayer are designed to kill adults and eggs and that is why one treatment was successful for me. I have no proof of anything I am saying other than my own experience, but there you go :)
 
If I am not mistaken some parasites do kill their hosts if it is part of the lifecycle? Why do some acros eventually die from the infection if the aefw are not trying to kill a host?
 
Because they are in an enclosed system. In the wild, the parasites can choose from a broader selection.

And no, Bauer absolutely 100% does not kill the eggs. Proven by me in eradicating my tank twice of these Devils.
 
Because they are in an enclosed system. In the wild, the parasites can choose from a broader selection.

And no, Bauer absolutely 100% does not kill the eggs. Proven by me in eradicating my tank twice of these Devils.

Do you base that 100% statement on a test you performed with eggs or are you saying you dipped and had them return so it must not have been effective? The former would be proof; the latter would be anecdotal.
 
I'm basing it on the fact that bayer doesn't kill the eggs because they still hatched after dipping.
 
Statements like yours above are entirely more harmful to the reefing community than you think as well. Stating (even personal experience) that it killed the eggs for you gives someone else misinformation and the wrong tools to get rid of them.

I would also advise you to tell people there is a good probability that you still have aefw since you didn't do a full system QT if you're giving away or selling coral.
 
If Bayer killed the eggs then the people who dip new corals and add them to their display afterwards would not have any aefw problems. But yet we constantly see new threads where people have got aefw and are surprised because they dipped all their frags in Bayer.

It seems there is a new wave of people promoting the method of dipping coral frags in bayer while remounting the coral on a fresh frag plug, and adding to the display. Acting like its a surefire way to stay free of pests. I do promote this but I always keep the frags in another tank for observation until I am positive there is nothing missed. Same goes with Redbugs. People use this method and still get Redbugs.

This is kind of side talk but unfortunately people still sell their coral frags on these message boards even when they knowingly have infestations of aefw and or red bugs. Some people act like its OK to do this because they promote this dip and mount method. This method may work for a while but people get complacent and things will slip through. Especially when people selling withhold information about their system having aefw. Some of these fs threads would take me days to go through and warn all the people who bought from the seller. And that would just be the people who posted on the thread, what about the ones who just pmed? I feel bad for everyone involved in these situations and won't intervene but sometimes I think it would be best. It could save a lot of people the headache of dealing with aefw. I am not sure what the right thing to do in this situation would be...
 
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