aldiver311
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Want to get peoples experiences with it I've used it before and am thinking about using it again. I have a fowler I have been told by many shop owners this is a great product to treat ich and flukes.
Quick Cure, does it work??
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MrTuskfish
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This stuff is a combination of mal. green and formalin (formaldehyde). It is not an effective treatment for ich. Flukes are easily treated with Prazi-Pro, a far safer and more effective medication. If you're looking for a way to treat ich in your DT, there really isn't one. You need a HT/QT and the only reliable treatments for ich are: tank transfer, copper, or hypo (very difficult and questionable, IMO). A couple of the quinine meds may be effective also; but I have no direct experience.
f3honda4me
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To treat ich? Nope.
f3honda4me
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Fish have the ability to fight off ich themselves sometimes. Which is why people get this misconception that their magic elixir worked.
Well i have had to use it twice on two different tangs. Both times working with no problems. (and we all know tangs catch ick likes its going out of style) So would i label it a magic elixir... more then likely not.
sandwi54
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Quick cure, a combination of formalin and malachite green, is an excellent treatment for freshwater ich (Ichthyophthirius multifilis), but not saltwater ich (Cryptocaryon Irritans). The two organisms are different and respond to different treatments.
What we are treating for here is cryptocaryon irritans, and the only treatments that work 100% are copper, hyposalinity, and tank transfer. Formalin has been shown to have a mild effect on cryptocaryon, meaning it will kill some but not all. If you use Quick Cure and the fish are cured, then it's a simple case of luck, as well as the fish's own strong immune system.
What we are treating for here is cryptocaryon irritans, and the only treatments that work 100% are copper, hyposalinity, and tank transfer. Formalin has been shown to have a mild effect on cryptocaryon, meaning it will kill some but not all. If you use Quick Cure and the fish are cured, then it's a simple case of luck, as well as the fish's own strong immune system.
sandwi54
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I feel that many hobbyists do not know the difference between freshwater ich and saltwater ich, and think they are the same organism. The common name "ich" doesn't help either, as medication bottles usually only say "treat for ich" but does not specify "which ich."
I feel that we have a need to start calling saltwater ich "crypto" instead of "ich."
GeorgeMonnatJr
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Make a blog proposing the change in colloquial nomenclature, and I'll back it
If we get members of RC to make the switch, maybe it'll propagate.DoubleM 10
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nothing good in this hobby happens fast.
reeferman1128
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Formalin is only effective for roughly 2 hrs once introduced to saltwater. It will kill everything in the free swimming stage but not the cyst stage. This product is effective for brook. I use it the first day of my first couple transfers when doing tank transfer only because I use my DT water that is filtered through a 5 micron filter. Malachite Green can be used for fungal infections, bacterial infections, and as an anti-protozoal (for freshwater ich and velvet mainly, but also monogenetic trematodes/flukes. It is effective when used properly but is very toxic.
MrTuskfish
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I don't think its possible to keep formalin at a level that is toxic to the crypt for the 4 weeks required for eradication, without also being toxic to the fish. Formalin works well as a dip med for brooklynella, but the crypt life-cycle just doesn't lend itself to formalin treatment. There simply isn't any "authority'' I trust who would recommend this treatment for crypt. 20+ years ago, formalin was commonly used for lots of parasites. It didn't work then and won't work now. Knowing the crypt life-cycle and the short
effective time of formalin seems to make this obvious, to me anyhow. But I think some of us are just talking to ourselves.
effective time of formalin seems to make this obvious, to me anyhow. But I think some of us are just talking to ourselves.
aldiver311
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The only reason I think this stuff might work is because me and a friend of mine have been collecting now for 4-5 years and we used to treat all our ish with Cupramine and Prazzi pro in a large holding system for anywhere from 4 12 weeks. Just in the last year we decided to try the Quick Cure for cost reasons. We have had the same results. I know this is no way proof that this is a new found cure for ick and flukes but it does worl. All fish we collect come out of the caribbean and always are loaded with Ich and Flukes. With in 2 weeks most fish show no signs of any disease. We put alot of these fish into our main systems and still have had no return of either parasite. Normally the way I get the parasites is from putting fish in my system that I was told were QTed. Anyway thats my 2 cents
sandwi54
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Not disputing what you said. I believe it worked for you. Like I said in my previous post, formalin has been proven to have some effect on ich. It works to a certain extent, but in some cases fail. We do not recommend treatments that do not work 100%, simply because it's pointless to use such a treatment. Copper, hypo, and tank transfer have been consistently proven to eliminate ich, when performed correctly, and those methods are what we recommend.
Keep in mind that there are different strains of ich (just like some people have stronger natural immune systems than others). Some are stronger than others. Formalin may work on the weak ones but not on the strong ones.
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