Quote from LA on Kaudern's

Mikeeal

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"Due to its aggressive behavior towards conspecifics, the Kaudern's Cardinal should not be kept in large groups."

Why do I always see these together in groups of a few to several?
 
Yep I think you're right, just got done doin some reading with google, for the most part it seems if you add several they end up pairing off and becoming quite aggresive with the outcast/s.

Too bad, groups of around five look very nice imo.
 
In moderate sized tanks, you can have a pair and no more. In huge tanks, sometimes multiple pairs but they will stay away from the others.
 
Thanks for the replies, they'd be going in a five foot 110G. My LFS has five of them, two are definitely larger than the other three. I'd say the bigger of the five are not quite 2" yet, or very close to it. I'd love to get a couple to pair off, would my chances of that be best if I got one larger one and then the smallest one? Or, an article I read last night mentioned getting several, then letting them pair off on their own, then returning the others. I'm not sure that's a possibility with my LFS. I thought about putting the "leftovers" in my 220G, but I already have five very large healthy pajamas in there, so that wouldn't go over to well imo.

Funny to see that quote on LA because they sell groups of ~5 on DD all the time.

Yes I noticed, another reason I was thrown off in the past.
 
you dont know how many times I wrote into the DD and explained to them that 5 banggais is a NO-NO in anything but huge tanks (>300 gals). Maybe they finally got it

Once a male in the five reached sexual maturity all heck breaks loose and you end up w/ a pair and 2 or 3 loners dying in the rockwork.
 
Maybe because they aren't mature or because their is one male and many females.

One males and many females is a recipe for disaster. Multiple males have a better shot, because a female can alternate laying eggs for the males to carry faster than the eggs incubate. So sometimes in a good sized tank, the males will set up shop at opposite ends, and the female will go back and forth between them. It usually doesn't work, but occasionally it does.
 
This is one of the only pet peeves I have with the DD, is that they always offer these fish in 3 or more. I wish they would offer them as pairs or singly.
 

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