ready to give up, stn issues, help!!

[andyrm66]

Where did I get filters

 

[andyrm66]

Where did you, I mean

 

[tahiriqbal]

while you at it, check if you have any stray voltage going in to the tank!

Tahir

 

[sponger0]

Another think is are you checking your alk at only one point during the day? When having SPS problems, I like to check during different intervals during the day. Like 3 times to see what kind of swings you are getting.

 

[jjoos99]

I have usually checked alk in the evenings. I tested tonight and it is now up to 9.5.
I have never gotten a tingle in the main tank but occasionaly I get a tingle in the sump if I have a cut on my hand.
thanks
Jeff

 

[sponger0]

Well that could be a reason. I would check it 3 times tomorrow at different times of the day and see where its swinging

 

[dg3147]

ever figure it out or beat it?

 

[Saltliquid]

I have usually checked alk in the evenings. I tested tonight and it is now up to 9.5.
I have never gotten a tingle in the main tank but occasionaly I get a tingle in the sump if I have a cut on my hand.
thanks
Jeff

That's a small charge in your waters!
Near all of our gear is self earthing and when you feel that, you are now the earth.
Once your orthophosphate and phosphorus separate once inorganic, from the oxidation processes with in the nitrogen cycle, then you cannot successfully test for these and they will slowly kill your delicates and inspire hair algae and more.
Any nitrate will add to this.
The only way to easily achieve the balance needed to find it hard to have hair algae,cyano and also hard to kill corals of all types, is to use natures functions from algae, sponges and bio sinks.
These are very easy to build into your own bio filter.
There is so much expelled/leached into your water, if you use live rock, that will harm all reef life if these substances are not accounted for.

 

[jcarbone61]

I can almost guarantee that when you removed your substrate you released something toxic into the tank(the chemical name escapes me at the moment, but it is sulfuric and deadly) forget the stuff that builds up, but it is highly toxic.

I did the same thing a couple years back, killing huge sps colonies.

Water changes and gfo will help slow the process.

You are thinking about Hydrogen Sulfide ........very toxic stuff (rotton egg smell )

 

[Saltliquid]

Hydrogen sulphide is a result of obligate anaerobes and once released from its anoxic hide away it becomes sulphur, that’s the smell.
You do not want these microbes thriving in your waters!
With out a lot of work applied to a substrate is not just useless as nearly all are; it is also very detrimental to aquariums life forms health, for the long term.
Abundant sulphur, approximately 200+ million years ago took out 98 percent of all life on the planet, from that alone its easy to work out that it’s not a good gas to encourage for reef aquariums and the only thing substrates do in the long term, unless you are really switch on, is just that!

 

[jjoos99]

ever figure it out or beat it?

I have actually just recently started to get things going in the right way. Over the last year I have lost all of my sps corals and the tank has turned into a massive green algae forest. I have tried many different avenues, from lots of water changes, switching salts, added a bio reactor with bio balls, and installing a kalk reactor to run a higher level of ph. Nothing has worked. I stumbled across a thread about using lanthanum chloride and I have started to dose that into my tank per the threads instructions. I had started to see a dramatic decrease in algae so I got really aggressive and pulled all my rock from the tank and took a scrub brush to them and put them cleaned back into the tank. From what I have read phos can interfere with the calcification process of corals. So I am blaming everything on high levels of phos causing the gha and the slow demise of my corals. I have just 2 little nubs and some encrustings of a few corals left so I am anxious to watch to see if these will start to color up and start to grow. When I see that happen I will start to add some more corals into the tank. I dont want to waste my money too soon on frags if things arent right yet.
thanks
Jeff

 

[Saltliquid]

With in all cells is a bond of orthophosphate and phosphorus; oxidation separates these to become inorganic and along with most everything else, most end up in your substrate or in your live rock.
There is much more to your problems and the ways in which you are approaching them; I hope they work for you, as these are old and simple issues that are dealt with so easily.
Good luck with these things that many hobbyists other then myself, will have to try and deal with as well.
Skimmers and dirty media beds have a lot to answer for!