Red Goniopora doing poorly. Need Advice!

novahobbies

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I could use some advice! This little kid is looking pretty sad. I bought a red Goniopora frag from ReefChicks a few months ago. I do not believe it is a captive bred specimen (Aly, please correct me if that's wrong!) but I know it was under the same cheap chinese lights in their tank before coming to live with me. In the beginning, I was seeing moderate polyp extension and a good red coloration:


But now? Now, the poor thing looks like this:


Yep. Pretty sad. VERY sad. And I'm hoping I can save it before it's too late.

Now, I've read that red Gonis are generally a little hardier than the greens. I spot feed it with goniopower roughly every week (pumps off, using the wide siphon tube to concentrate the food) and I DO see some polyp extension when I feed.

At first I thought my Blue/White LEDs weren't giving out the correct spectrum of light. After adding a few reds and greens to the mix, the coral actually looks worse. I'm now wondering if this is TOO MUCH light. The coral is roughly in the middle of the tank, in a proverbial "moderate light, moderate flow" spot....but I have some areas that are more shaded if need be. To give you a reference, my favites and favia have to be shaded, otherwise they bleach out even on the bottom of the tank.

So: I'd love some advice if anyone has an opinion to offer. Should I try to shade this, or am I thinking in the wrong direction? Should I try moving it UP? I think there might be a little too much flow here also...the shaded spot I was thinking of is also a little slower water.

Oh, and just for fun: Here's what the coral looks like under actinic LEDs, with a RED filter over the camera lens. No photoshop here, just old-fashioned camera work:


If it looks this cool now...can you imagine what it would look like when it's healthy?
 
Richard, I believe you are giving it to much light. And you are correct; this was not an aquacultured piece. I'm not sure if that fact carries much weight though, since I have recently experienced something similar in a tank I maintain at school, where some of our zoas and gonios were bleaching. We keep several different gonioporas, including ORA ones that were perfectly healthy and with full coloration. Since I went from 2 120w LED lights to only one, they've regained lot of their color. HTH...
 
Say 'goodbye', to a piece that was not a 'good buy'...IMO, if its not captive bred/raised (think ORA) the chances of survival are small!
 
Mike, my thoughts exactly.

And Ladybug my dear, thanks for chiming in!! I had a feeling about the piece, but it was just too pretty to pass up (yeah, I try to stick with aquacultured and maricultured as much as possible). I've heard that ORA's colonies are a little more adapted to aquarium life, but that was in reference to feeding...not so much about lighting.

Anyone else keep these, or have thoughts about it? Here's a wider shot of where it is in the tank:


There is a Koralia evo 4 on the far right of the picture that pushes a current past the coral on an alternating time schedule. You can see that it's actually fairly deep in the tank, but still...seems bleached to me too. The spot I'm thinking of putting it is low down, a few inches above the sand bed. In fact you can almost see it: There is a Potter's Angel in this picture (very bottom, almost center) who is blocking the spot I am thinking of. The rock with the green Caribbean Rose coral overhangs the spot and provides shade.
 
Say 'goodbye', to a piece that was not a 'good buy'...IMO, if its not captive bred/raised (think ORA) the chances of survival are small!

Albano, I respect that and accept that it might be a possibility....but I don't want to give up just yet. I hope I can "prove you wrong!" :D
 
Not even close to saying goodbye these corals are pretty resistant and grow back fast, low light is the answer though for sure
 
I have various wild pieces doing well. I don't think it's lights or flow or feeding. I thinks it's water chemistry. What's your alk and phosphates I Am going to quests you had a low or high alk incident recently?
 
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I have various wild pieces doing well. I don't think it's lights or flow or feeding. I thinks it's water chemistry. What's your alk and phosphates I Am going to quests you had a low or high alk incident recently?

Going from the rest of the comments, I will go ahead and drop the coral tonight to see how that goes.

Marke, I will run a full report of test results tonight to post. My dKh is usually around 10, and (last time I checked) phosphates are <.25. All other corals are looking very good...just this poor kid. But I'll tell you what....right off the bat I know that my Mag is very high, because I'm running a Bryopsis treatment.

*EDIT* the coral was looking poor before I started the Mag.
 
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I have an ORA red goni that is pretty big. I keep mine in low light, heavy flow, and never feed it. Mine is very resilient. It has closed up for days at a time before, but never had any recession. Good luck with yours. It does look bleached so hopefully moving it to lower light will help.
 
Tonight's chemistry:
pH: 7.8
KH is between 9&10 dKh (so between 150 and 166ppm)
Calcium is 460
Phosphate is <.25 (almost unreadable on API)
Nitrate is <5, and probably very close to 0.

I didn't bother to titrate the Mag tonight. Last test put me at 1680, when I stopped adding Kent Tech-M. That was just a couple days ago.
 
Thanks man. I dropped it down to the bottom of the tank last night before I ran my numbers. It's tucked into a little niche that will hopefully give it some relief.
It hasn't started any actual tissue recession, which I think is a good thing. I hope it can build up its zooxanthellae again, but I know it's a long shot.

Edit: I know my pH may seem low to some, but it stays pretty stable around 7.8 and 8.0 so I don't mess with it. As long as the fish and corals seem happy, and the level doesn't fluctuate, I don't think it's necessary to try changing it.
 
I have a alveopora at 100 par ( leds ) and goniopora at 200-250 range, both happy.

I'd love to try an alveopora frag, but I don't want to attempt it until I know I can keep this Goni happy.
I don't have a PAR meter but I do wish I could get it checked at some point. Anyone with a meter feel like driving up to Deerfield?? I'll feed ya! :lolspin:
 
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