Redundancy

[Dejavu]

I have ordered my profilux and hope to get it in a few days but until than I have a question regarding redundancy. The question regards a situation that has occurred to me in the past. If I have my heater controlled by the profilux and one burns out, will it trip out my GFI/circuit, and if so will I lose all other control to all other equipment pluged into the profilux. Or is there some sort of protection to avoid this? Sorry if this question have been answered already.

 

[Creetin]

I would think it will burn the fuse first in the powerstrip before it trips the breaker.

 

[Tony Romano]

In digital power bar? There is a fuse?

 

[Creetin]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12040372#post12040372 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tony Romano
In digital power bar? There is a fuse?

Yes theres 6 fuses one on each outlet. 500v T8A style fuses.
Which brings me to a question, Since 500v fuses are very few and far between here in the states Matthias will 250V T8A fuses work?

 

[Tony Romano]

Right up there on mu list with rs232 cable and jumpers - come on guys! For 2k I expect first rate - not nickel and dimed to death. I asked about resetting power bars last week, I don't thik question was ever directly addressed.

 

[Dejavu]

well if the power strip goes out than you will lose everything that is powered by the strip. Which is no good either.

 

[Tony Romano]

You can get a fused power strip and place between heater and digital power outlet.

I have fused power strips protecting unit from street power or overload. After reading your post I think I'll get some load side protection going as well - thanks for good question.

 

[boboxx]

The new revision of the digital power bar doesn’t have any fuses anymore... each of the receptacles are rated for 15Amp so that is only one item is connected and it's using 15Amps it will not trip.

So that being said, whenever a component goes it will spike way beyond the 15 amp rating and will trip the internal breaker.

Christian

 

[Tony Romano]

Good info - how does one reset breaker or is it automatic?

 

[Dejavu]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12040816#post12040816 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by boboxx
The new revision of the digital power bar doesn’t have any fuses anymore... each of the receptacles are rated for 15Amp so that is only one item is connected and it's using 15Amps it will not trip.

So that being said, whenever a component goes it will spike way beyond the 15 amp rating and will trip the internal breaker.

Christian

so does this mean that if a heater or whatever goes out the rest of the equipment pluged into the power strip will stayed powered?

 

[boboxx]

I'm not really sure of the details hopefully Matthias will pop in on Monday and clarify... here is what I had received in an email from Matthias a while back:

"we redesigned the powerbar recently - now each socket can drive up to 15A - no need for fuses"

The reset is automatic as there are no machinacl parts une the powerbar (I opened up mine to see :c)


Christian

 

[AQD_ottawa]

As far as I am aware from talking to Matthias they are thermal overload fuses, I will clraify this for everyone on Monday

 

[Matthias Gross]

A lot of cunfusion here!

- the first version of powerbars came with 6A and 8A fuses, each socket is separately protected. If they are blown they must be replaced.

- for the new powerbars we decided to get rid of the fuses - because any socket should be able to supply up to 15A. The advantage of having up to 15A produced a small disadvantage: A defective device maybe will cause that all sockets are without power. But for this case are the expansion sockets a good choice - the power can be divided to several main power circuits (fuses) of your household.

 

[AQD_ottawa]

Christian,

To clarify, the power bar has no auto reset or fuses at all, if there is an overload it will blow the main house hold fuse.

it is the new ProfiLux controller that has auto reset fuses

 

[boboxx]

ha that's right! I knew there was a fuse somewhere :c)

Is there a fuse in the high amp Powerbar?

 

[Tony Romano]

My panel has all 20A breakers - what happens to digital power bar if I top 15A?

 

[AQD_ottawa]

We have a house that is 6 months old and all the breakers are 15 amp, there is nothing in your home that should be rated that high, this is my personal and not proffesional thought.

But going by our house maybe reduce the breaker to 15amp that the tank sits on.

Just a thought

 

[boboxx]

hey Tony,

hmm ya this is really strange... you don’t put a 20Amp breaker because you’re always popping a 15.... You put a 20 because there is a requirement for it.

For me, in my house I have 3 20amp brakes to but used by some of my tools in my workshop. The key is not to put a high value breaker to feed more plugs from a single receptacle but to share the load across multiple 15 amp receptacles.

I hope for you that if you have 20 amp barkers that you have 12Ga wire running through your house to match. Most appliances are rated at 15 or lower.

Christian

 

[Tony Romano]

I think wire is all 12 in this house - it got by inspector 4 years ago when we did addition. I do however think I'll get some 15s for my reef breakers.