Reef safe Angle?

mmotown

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Guys just wanted to know are there any reefsafe angles? My wife wanted one and I told her to hold on! i have clams, LPS and SPS in my tank
 
if you mean a pomocanthid type angel...... the regal is about 90% safe bet, the majestic is about 70% safe bet, the emporer and asfur are probably 50-60% safe bet with 90% of corals, the rest are somewhere inbetween zero and 50%....... with some, like the passer & french being closer to zero......

Its all a gamble..... the most "reef safe" could turn out to be a monster, the worst could be a model citizen....... some angels will molest 1 or 2 species only, while others are perfect, and yet more again are not......

Dwarf angels...... in reality, in a big tank, there is only so much a damage a dwarf angel can do...... again, individual fish can go from being perfect to nippers to out and out consumers of all things coral...... most are perfect to nippers..... and in a heavily stocked tank, the odd nip does no real harm...... but again, its all a gamble......

peronally, if I wanted a proper "reef" tank, I would stay away from angels altogether...... but I prefer angels to corals, personally, so I have an emporer, and he picks at just about everything......

HTH - although I doubt it does :D

Matt
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12376591#post12376591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
I am going to say 182 degrees.
I C WUT U DID THAR

But I agree with Matt. Both of them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12380953#post12380953 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by thor32766
swallow tail angels are just awesome fish and are reef safe.

I'm gonna get shot for this comment, but.........

I think when most people refer to "angels", they do not refer to the swallow tail et al (Genicanthus sp.). Personally, when I use the term "angefish" I refer to Pomacanthid sp., or those that clsoely resemble them, and get bigger than 3" or so.......

Genicanthus sp. are of course true angelfish, none the less..... its just they don't fullfil my idea of what an angelfish is...... if you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong, Genicanthus sp are beautiful fish in their own right, its just they lack the familiar angelfish characteristics, in my view, "mentally".
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12383578#post12383578 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mattsilvester
I'm gonna get shot for this comment, but.........

I think when most people refer to "angels", they do not refer to the swallow tail et al (Genicanthus sp.). Personally, when I use the term "angefish" I refer to Pomacanthid sp., or those that clsoely resemble them, and get bigger than 3" or so.......

Genicanthus sp. are of course true angelfish, none the less..... its just they don't fullfil my idea of what an angelfish is...... if you know what I mean. Don't get me wrong, Genicanthus sp are beautiful fish in their own right, its just they lack the familiar angelfish characteristics, in my view, "mentally".
:uzi: Thats because you love those big, bold angels.;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12383693#post12383693 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by BangkokMatt
:uzi: Thats because you love those big, bold angels.;)

and of course the flair, gens are pussys
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12385251#post12385251 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
and of course the flair, gens are pussys
True - Coral Beauties are the way forward:hmm2:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=#post target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
and of course the flair

I disagree. I think the Genicanthus angels share some of the personality of larger angels. I have two female G. melanospilos and a harem of G. watanabei and they are as inquisitive and bold as any of the other angels that I have kept without any of the aggression or territoriality of the Centropyge and larger angelfish.

However I do agree that they are not what most people think of or want when they think angelfish. But in my opinion that is because they are under appreciated. :D
 
My genicanthus have more flair and "personality" than any of my large angels. Perhaps it is because they don't waste their time figuring out what coral to try next or what fish to pick on.

Genicanthus are well worth keeping in any reef tank that is large enough.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12376591#post12376591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
I am going to say 182 degrees.

Typically, 90 degrees is usually seen for both fish only and reef. I've never seen 182 degrees except on the "Full grown degrees only thread".

Some gens are really cool, like the personatus, the takeuchii, the semicinctus, and the Pitcairn. Unfortunately most of the ones you will actually find in an LFS just don't do it for me.
 
Personally, I hate geometry and all angles are bad imo

Genicanthus are not the colorful type that everyone loves and desires so most try and put fish that may have a chance of nipping like most of the dwarfs, my cherub is fine, but picks only a little and doesnt do any real harm, also many say the fan favorite flame angel is basically a 50/50 shot.
 
this topic is like an oxymoron; there really is few angels that are truly reef safe; I know the Lamarck Angel is but I can think of barely any that I have not read about at least one experience on here where a specimen picked at their reef.
 
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