Refugium?

Well I am already running a DSB, my nitrate's are always test 0, I seem to have plenty of pods... not sure if a fuge is for me....

I went to Tropic Marin Pro Reef...

Rob, I would be embarrassed to post a picture of my tank the way it looks right now...
 
The best location for the fuge is anywhere that the fuge water can go to the tank without going through the skimmer.
 
Here is some examples of the growth I have been getting...

Purple rim cap taken Mon Aug 29, 2005, it's about the size of a quarter.

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Here is is today, it's about the size of a softball with about 2 inches of new growth in the last 3 months.

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Here's another one of a purple digi (I think) that has gone nuts as well... this is the mother colony, I have broke off several pieces trying to clean.

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I love my fuge. That's where I keep all my "fun" stuff. Right now I have a florescent orange serpent star in there healing after an injury, and about 5 nudi's, 2 giant ugly tunicates that my son likes to shine the light on so they squirt water out the top, serveral porcelain crabs, a little rock lobster etc.

As far as maintenance, I don't maintain it at all except to pull some macro's out when growing too well. For the first time ever, I haven't had algae problems in my tank.

My son and I just like to watch the zillions of critters in there. I guess it's just a personal preference. I love mine!
 
I had a problem not being able to grow an abundance of macro in my fuge...until I saw a article about changing bulbs from CF's to a incandscent - now Im pulling it out by the handfull every week. Nitrates are lowered..and phosphates are lowered since the macro started growing.
 
Saolor_jon, do you think it has helped to reduce/limit algae growth in your tank?

You know more and more I hear how a refugium helps reduce phosphates in a tank. Thing is I have never seen any color change with a phosphate test kit....
 
hey dave. a little something about phosphates. I think there are either 4 types or 4 groups of phosphates. rowa and phosban only help remove the kind you can test for. you can only test for one kind with a hobby level test kit. so I guess the growth of algea and removal of the algea would help to remove the other kinds that the algea may use.
 
Dr Randy in the chemistry forum has an article where he removed algae from a fuge and measured the amount of po4 in the algae. Considering the amount the algae grew and was removed as it grew, the po4 export was huge.
 
looks like things are growinf well for him. not sure what happened to the colors but he has growth for sure. probably the coralline on the back glass messing with the camera?
 
yeah randy's tank. it looked good when he first set it up. i scrape every piece of coralline off the glass I can find. pretty nasty looking to me. on the rock is where it belongs ;)
 
Hey Warnberg, I see that you have 4 Tunze Turbelle stream 6000 but is the flow getting all the way around? I had a problem with algae and it was because of low flow. I had good flow on the front rocks of my tank but I looked at the back and that is where it was starting and then spreading. I've changed my flow and added another pump and it has greatly improved. Just a thought to throw out there and another cause for algae growth.
 
I changed things around a bit so that I didn't have any dead spots but it doesn't help, I actually did a test and pointed another power head directly at a rock, the algae still grew there. I guess I'll just keep going with the rowaphos and water changes and syphoning and hope I'll get ahead of this beast....
 
Dave - its really hard to say you know? There are so many moving parts to this animal. If you get you phospates low..but cant balance the Ph then it all goes awry anyway..etc.

However - I am a great beliver in more biology-less technolgy, as Dave Bornemen says. So a refugium makes perfect sense to me..and its real easy to get it going. I have noticed the algae doesnt grow like it used to in the main tank, before i installed the fuge. It still does, but I have an overstocked tank - so I deal with my issues (fish keep getting bigger wife, or maybe me, loves too much to let them go).

Its also a great place to keep shrimps, crabs, inverts and pods..and all kinds of other things that the hungry fish would love to snack on. Mine is ahead of my skimmer and filter sock..so any detritus goes right to the fuge. I use an old 10 gal with an ovverflow into my sump, and routed the overflow from the tank to the fuge instead of direct to the sump...it was an easy install. Not ideal, as some folks have other ways of routing, but it worked for me.

Just use an incandescent bulb - easy and cheap grows macro like crazy -great dinner garden! heh heh
 
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