Replacing LED Bulbs

cincyjim

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I posted this in the Lighting forum and didn't get any help or advice. Would anyone here have an answer or experience with LED bulbs needing to be replaced and how often? The reason I ask is, I was looking at a high end LED fixture and it stated that the LEDs had to be replaced every 5 years. If it is true, how difficult would it be to replace all the LEDs.
Thanks,
Jim
 
Most LEDs have a lifespan of 50,000 hours.

So after 50,000 hours they'll start to burn out and you'll need two replace the individual LEDs. Or its just easier to buy a new fixture
 
Hmm, 50,000 hours, at 8 hours per day, that's 17 years.
If that's really the case then I'd replace the whole thing.
Let us know how it went . . . I a decade.
Still, I am curious if anyone needed to replace LEDs. How? How often?
 
Many people do diy, so they have a leg up on it, but getting into the case on some would be interesting. I have Radions, and there are screws, but mine talks to the manufacturer every time I run changes: it has a USB you plug in, linked to your computer (I don't have the interface, just use a laptop) and I think probably it is capable of detecting a malfunction and reporting same. Not sure at all. You might ask Ecotech whether they do service on a dead bulb. As these units do age, there's still a lot of 'room' in the program---I run mine at 50% of what they can output, and the corals are happy. So just ramping up the percentage might hold you a while, I have absolutely no idea---Again, you might ask a specific manufacturer. If they last more than 5 years, you'll have spent only a certain amount for the unit per year---and I know I was spending about 100.00 a year on regular MH and actinics. So I figure what with the less power draw, no ballast to buy separate, and all, the per annum cost even at a 5 year life wouldn't be killer, compared to the annual bulb bill. I have no day/night temperature fluctuation, temp is rock steady, and colors are variable during the day and very nice. If they should run 50,000 hours I'd be ecstatic.

SOme other issues to consider: ease of setup, 'spread' and 'depth'. An LED is much more straight down than sideways, but some seem to have more spread than others: I was able to get away with a single unit on my wedge bow tank, because my rockwork is essentially a pyramid. And how deep they will reach while still delivering coral-capable light is also variable by brand. If you have a very deep or very shallow tank this also is something to take into consideration.
 
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Check in the DIY forum. A lot of people in there build there own LED fixtures from scratch so could probably help you out better.
 
Replacing LED Bulbs

I have read some where online about the CREE LEDs. Some one correct me if I'm wrong. I think the are rated to 50k hours. That means they will produce ATLEAST 75% of the light output at 50k hours.
 
Replacing LED's will require you to have decent soldering skills plus some experience with soldering on a circuit board. If you don't mind breaking into your LED hood to check out the innards and your a tinkerer it may be worth your while.

Otherwise replacing the entire unit would be the other option - not to mention the speed that LED's are advancing you never know what will be available in 5 years.
 
In certain fixtures like Reef Breeders replacing LEDs is easy and the fixture is not as sensitive as you would think. Just have a decent soldering iron, an LED tester, and a lot of patients the first time you do it. I've replaced hundreds of them through the years without a single issue. Remember to connect the correct pole(ie + or -) where it goes. So a magnifying glass might be necessary. This is also great for adding different LEDs and removing some of the royal blues they come with and adding some 390,400,415, and 430nm in their place.
 
I posted this in the Lighting forum and didn't get any help or advice. Would anyone here have an answer or experience with LED bulbs needing to be replaced and how often? The reason I ask is, I was looking at a high end LED fixture and it stated that the LEDs had to be replaced every 5 years. If it is true, how difficult would it be to replace all the LEDs.
Thanks,
Jim

What fixture claimed that?

LED's do not really shift the emission frequency like florescent or HID lighting so that is not an issue. Over time they will lose a bit of power but that can be compensated by turning it up a bit, most people will not ever need to run them at at 100% so that is also not an issue. The only time you would need to replace them is if they burn out, that is not something that should happen in a well designed/well built fixture that has passed an initial burn in time.
 
I rather not name the fixture because now I can't find the data statement for that fixture, so without that I feel I would be bashing them without supporting statements/article. I'm trying to find and if I do I'll post it.
 
As has been mentioned, the LED diodes themselves don't need to be replaced for >10 years. Weird that a mfg would suggest that it be replaced after 5 years.

That being said, more often than not, the part that "goes" on LED fixtures are the drivers, not the diodes themselves. In a tightly manufactured fixture, as has been mentioned, it will be tough to replace those (probably, but can't be sure without more specifics). On DIY fixtures, I could swap out drivers, power supplies, or even the individual LED stars without using a soldering iron. I would solder it to keep it cleaner, but it wouldn't be necessary. I imagine on any of the high-end fixtures, it would need to be sent back for replacement/upgrading.

Honestly, we're learning and exploring so much in LEDs right now, that you'd be better off buying a new fixture in 5 years (or upgrading it), even though it will probably still be working just fine. Think of the difference in LED lighting quality from the early PFO days, to even the first generation Radion, to where we are now.
 
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