Rimless fish list NEED OPINIONS

[Polskareefer]

I am setting up a Rimless 85 gallon tank 3foot wide, 2 foot deep and wide. fish list NEED OPINIONS on weather or not these guys will jump out or not
Tank stock list

Fish:
Occelaris clowns 2
Yellow coris wrasse
6 line wrasse
Pygmy angel
Twin spot goby
Powder brown or Kole tang
Tail Spot Blenny or Striped fang blenny or Midas blenny
Royal gramma maybe
Bangaii cardinals maybe
High fin goby & shrimp


Inverts:

Rose Bubble Tip Anemone
20 Hermit Crabs
2 cleaner shrimp
1 blood shrimp
2 sexy shrimp
Feather dusters
2 emerald crabs
1 red thorny starfish
1 porcelin crab
10 Nassarius snails
10 Nerite snail
1 sand sifting starfish
1 lettuce nudibranch
1 squamsoa clam
1 Pom pom crab
1 Arrow crab

 

[Sardaukar]

Every fish is a jumper in a rimless tank under the right circumstances. It just takes the right combination of a stress of some kind (tankmate, someone walking by, light falling into the tank, etc) plus an unlucky movement and pretty much any fish can end up over the rim on the floor.

If you are asking about probability of a fish being a jumper, a general rule is that the more aerodynamic/torpedo shaped a fish is, the more likely it is to have the combination of fast speed + flighty response needed to jump. So dottybacks, wrasses, etc, being the most tube shaped, are the most likely to jump. Firefish, about as tube shaped a fish as you will find in an LFS, might be the most famous jumpers of all. On the flip side, clownfish are less likely to jump as they are rounder and fish like boxfish and puffers, being little cubes or spheres, are almost never going to be able to jump (although I feel confident that somewhere, somehow, a longhorn cowfish managed to jump out of an open container).

In your tank, I would say the gobies/blennies/wrasses and royal gramma are all pretty likely potential jumpers and if I were a betting man, I would take the over on 1 of those jumping out in the first year. The rest are less likely and of course, the only sure way to keep jumpers from jumping is to keep a lid. If you want to keep the rimless look, I would suggest making a mesh top. You can create some very classy looking and fine/thin mesh lids from screening material from a home improvement store. Keep the mesh lid on when you are not around and take it off when you want to enjoy the tank and the rimless look.

 

[TampaReefer79]

Every fish is a jumper in a rimless tank under the right circumstances. It just takes the right combination of a stress of some kind (tankmate, someone walking by, light falling into the tank, etc) plus an unlucky movement and pretty much any fish can end up over the rim on the floor.

If you are asking about probability of a fish being a jumper, a general rule is that the more aerodynamic/torpedo shaped a fish is, the more likely it is to have the combination of fast speed + flighty response needed to jump. So dottybacks, wrasses, etc, being the most tube shaped, are the most likely to jump. Firefish, about as tube shaped a fish as you will find in an LFS, might be the most famous jumpers of all. On the flip side, clownfish are less likely to jump as they are rounder and fish like boxfish and puffers, being little cubes or spheres, are almost never going to be able to jump (although I feel confident that somewhere, somehow, a longhorn cowfish managed to jump out of an open container).

In your tank, I would say the gobies/blennies/wrasses and royal gramma are all pretty likely potential jumpers and if I were a betting man, I would take the over on 1 of those jumping out in the first year. The rest are less likely and of course, the only sure way to keep jumpers from jumping is to keep a lid. If you want to keep the rimless look, I would suggest making a mesh top. You can create some very classy looking and fine/thin mesh lids from screening material from a home improvement store. Keep the mesh lid on when you are not around and take it off when you want to enjoy the tank and the rimless look.

I can't disagree with a word above. The wrasses would probably be the first to leap. Again, as stated you can make a very nice mesh top for the tank using pond screening (don't use eggcrate). The only thing that needs to be ADDED sardauker's post is that this tank is going to be way too small for the tang.

 

[snorvich]

Agree with both of the above.

 

[TheLivingReefFL]

Inverts:

Rose Bubble Tip Anemone
20 Hermit Crabs
2 cleaner shrimp
1 blood shrimp
2 sexy shrimp
Feather dusters
2 emerald crabs
1 red thorny starfish
1 porcelin crab
10 Nassarius snails
10 Nerite snail
1 sand sifting starfish
1 lettuce nudibranch
1 squamsoa clam
1 Pom pom crab
1 Arrow crab

I'm gona go out on a limb here and say these guys probably aren't jumpers

 

[Boxelder]

I wouldn't get a Midas Blenny in a rimless. I just got mine yesterday but it looked like the first thing he did when added was look for a place to try and jump out. My tank is covered through. In the wild they live in tide pools and are known to jump from pool to pool in search of new territory and food.

 

[Polskareefer]

does anyone have any recommendations on what fish you would get

 

[amnesia]

Inverts:

Rose Bubble Tip Anemone
20 Hermit Crabs
2 cleaner shrimp
1 blood shrimp
2 sexy shrimp
Feather dusters
2 emerald crabs
1 red thorny starfish
1 porcelin crab
10 Nassarius snails
10 Nerite snail
1 sand sifting starfish
1 lettuce nudibranch
1 squamsoa clam
1 Pom pom crab
1 Arrow crab

I'm gona go out on a limb here and say these guys probably aren't jumpers

The nerite snails may climb out. Not jumpers, but escapees.

 

[Polskareefer]

The nerite snails may climb out. Not jumpers, but escapees.

come to think of it you are totally right great point thanks for the comment

 

[29reef]

The sea stars can be hard to keep and can be toxic for the tank if they die. The sexy shrimp are so small I'd leave them to a smaller tank where they can be enjoyed more.

 

[Cantonesefish]

does anyone have any recommendations on what fish you would get

Seahorses don't jump

 

[Polskareefer]

The sea stars can be hard to keep and can be toxic for the tank if they die. The sexy shrimp are so small I'd leave them to a smaller tank where they can be enjoyed more.

this starfish is reefsafe and not hard to keep because it eats algae unlike a blue linkia, the sexy shrimp might be too small so i will have to think about that thanks for the comments

 

[Polskareefer]

Seahorses don't jump

i am planning on having a mixed reef with a lot of flow so the seahorse thinng is out but my wife would love that idea

 

[stunreefer]

Just keep a top on it. Take it off when you're doing maintenance, taking pics, or people are coming over. Then you can keep anything you want, and not worry about losing any fish. You can make tops that look really good, check out the ELOS forum.

I have a rimless aquarium and just keep a top on it when I'm not right there next to it.

 

[Polskareefer]

Just keep a top on it. Take it off when you're doing maintenance, taking pics, or people are coming over. Then you can keep anything you want, and not worry about losing any fish. You can make tops that look really good, check out the ELOS forum.

I have a rimless aquarium and just keep a top on it when I'm not right there next to it.

I love this idea because any of the fish i really want are jumpers so this would solve my problem and i never thought about it thanks

 

[Juiced_RL]

I live by the Firefish comments I would hear mine hit the ground probably once a month for about six months until he jumped when I wasn't home. Some of the shrimp like to jump also I had some peppermints that decided to jump out of an old tank. I am looking to build a rimless but it removes about half of my favorite fish.

 

[VtheMaestro]

I am setting up a Rimless 85 gallon tank 3foot wide, 2 foot deep and wide. fish list NEED OPINIONS on weather or not these guys will jump out or not
Tank stock list

Fish:
Occelaris clowns 2
Yellow coris wrasse
6 line wrasse
Pygmy angel
High fin goby & shrimp (yasa hashe and pistol pair)


Inverts:

Rose Bubble Tip Anemone
20+ Hermit Crabs
1 blood shrimp
1 Feather dusters (coco worm)
2 emerald crabs
1 porcelin crab
5+ Nassarius snails
2 serpent starfish

isn't it hilarious how people love to joke when you really want answers? :hmm5:

i changed the quoted message to reflect what i have in my tank, no jumps or escapes in 3 months.

 

[Ian]

no jumps or escapes...... yet

i changed the quoted message to reflect a much more accurate scenario

 

[jmaneyapanda]

i changed the quoted message to reflect a much more accurate scenario

EXACTLY. 3 months is hardly a time to do a victory dance. As stated repeatedly, every one of those fish can jump. Some more likely than others, but every one of them can do so. The brass tacks are that we have NO IDEA why fish jump sometimes. We can speculate, but they will jump for no apparent reason sometimes, and even after living "happily" in the tank for years (as a huge number of threads here can attest to).

Just keep a top on it. Take it off when you're doing maintenance, taking pics, or people are coming over. Then you can keep anything you want, and not worry about losing any fish. You can make tops that look really good, check out the ELOS forum.

I dont know if I can agree with this, Austin. My fish are MOST nervous when the camera, vistors, idiot relatives are banging on the glass, running back and forth, etc. WHile it is "less risky", because if one jumps, youre there, it certainly does not make it "safe", IMHO.

 

[stunreefer]

I dont know if I can agree with this, Austin. My fish are MOST nervous when the camera, vistors, idiot relatives are banging on the glass, running back and forth, etc. WHile it is "less risky", because if one jumps, youre there, it certainly does not make it "safe", IMHO.

Touché, and take my statement with a grain, make that bag of salt... my top rarely if ever actually comes off. If I'm doing major glass cleaning, I take them off, or a FTS I do take them off. The post I made was to reflect that you can enjoy a rimless aquarium and keep fish in it (with a top).

I don't have friends anymore and my family thinks I'm a nut, so I don't have to worry about that part - besides you and Ian, I'm alone, and you guys are too far away to come chill and make my fish jump

I would flip if my bandit cleared the glass while I was standing right there... :eek1: