Rinsing frozen food

Mac Inger

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So i keep reading about you guys rinsing the mysis and the brine and so on in RO before feeding.

How do you do it ? Im not figuring this one out....
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10859939#post10859939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mac Inger
And that gets rid of the phosphates ?
Gets rid of the phosphates dissolved into the juices of the food, not the ones in the food itself.
I also use a brine shrimp net to rinse the frozen food but I just rinse it under the tap, I do not think RO/DI is necessary.
 
I actually just rinse/drain in a little cup (repeat several times depending on how "juicy" the food is). This way, particulates that would still get caught in the BS net will also be poured off.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10859948#post10859948 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jdieck
Gets rid of the phosphates dissolved into the juices of the food, not the ones in the food itself.
I also use a brine shrimp net to rinse the frozen food but I just rinse it under the tap, I do not think RO/DI is necessary.

I'm always super paranoid about getting chloramines/chlorine from tap water into my tank. When rinsing out powerheads/skimmer collection cup, I dip all peices into RO/DI water with Prime added just before I dry them to be sure. Are you never worried about the chloramines binding to the food and then the fish eating it?

I might be overreacting, but I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on that. Would save me a ton of time!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10859939#post10859939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mac Inger
And that gets rid of the phosphates ?

...and vitamins...and other nutrients.

I just thaw in a clean glass and use the backside of a spoon and squeeze the "juice" from the frozen food. I then dose with Selcon and garlic and let sit over night in the frig.

No phosphate problems here and very happy healthy fish!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10860796#post10860796 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gdevine
...and vitamins...and other nutrients.


I think you posted this in another thread and I meant to comment, but didn't get around to it.

So, you are concerned about washing away "vitamins and nutrients" that are in the thaw "juice"? Exactly what are you concerned about washing away, and how are your fish benefiting from these things in the juice?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10860425#post10860425 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deucetowe
I'm always super paranoid about getting chloramines/chlorine from tap water into my tank. When rinsing out powerheads/skimmer collection cup, I dip all peices into RO/DI water with Prime added just before I dry them to be sure. Are you never worried about the chloramines binding to the food and then the fish eating it?

I might be overreacting, but I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on that. Would save me a ton of time!
No not really. I would be more worried if chloramine enters the tank in significant amounts but the amount is so diminute. The tank will just get chloride (which there is a huge amount in there already) and a minimal undetectable amount of Ammonia that gets processed very quickly.
If it were a 5 gal system I might be concerned. In any case I let the net dripping on the sink for 5 to 10 minutes before adding it to the tank.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10861340#post10861340 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
I think you posted this in another thread and I meant to comment, but didn't get around to it.

So, you are concerned about washing away "vitamins and nutrients" that are in the thaw "juice"? Exactly what are you concerned about washing away, and how are your fish benefiting from these things in the juice?

Yes I am concerned about washing away the vitamins that are added to many frozen foods. There are numerous threads on just this topic on WWM.

The recommendation is to thaw the frozen food then decanter the juice and not to wash the food as this could/will rinse away the added nutrients added by the food processing companies.

I just use a spoon to squeeze out as much of the "juice" as possible after it thawed to eliminate the potential phosphate introduction into the tank.

I've been doing this method for well over a year and my phosphates are near zero.
 
I take WWM with a grain of salt sometimes.

I'm not following you on this. You thaw your food, squeeze out more juice with a spoon, add selcon, let it sit overnight...then what? Do you dump the whole thing in the tank? Rinse it? Drain it?

Do you separate the food from the thaw/squeezed out juice rpior to adding the selcon?
 
Ok thank you for the informative thread,..but for those rinsing in tap water,...dont you think the tap water might have the same amount of phosphates ?

I havent tested as i dont think the color chart tests will give me accurate low readings on this,..maybe we should ask Jetcat to check with his Hannah meter

SDguy,...i dont understand you process,...can you please explain how you drain in a cup and how you catch the particles ?
 
SDguy,

it sounds like he does something similar to me. I let it thaw and then "strain" the water out. I dont rinse it off at all, I just drain/strain the water thats melted and then dump a little shrimp into my tanks. Obviously I add ZoeCon, Selcon, or whatever additive I'm going for that day. For some insane reason I also vary their vitamin intake. I like to think that sometimes they just want a "little cotton candy" (once or twice a month) rather than healthier food all the time. Ugh, I'm in waaaaaay too deep.

Not sure if that helps or not.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10861713#post10861713 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SDguy
I take WWM with a grain of salt sometimes.

I'm not following you on this. You thaw your food, squeeze out more juice with a spoon, add selcon, let it sit overnight...then what? Do you dump the whole thing in the tank? Rinse it? Drain it?

Do you separate the food from the thaw/squeezed out juice rpior to adding the selcon?

OK, here's what I do:

1. In a clean juice glass drop in the frozen food (in my case usually mysis and blood worms).
2. Let thaw for 10 minutes (a puddle of juice will form around the thawed food).
3. Tilting the glass I use the underside of a spoon and squeeze the food against the side of the glass to extract even more juice from the thawed food (you'd be surprised how much more comes out!). Pour out the juice and wipe inside of glass to get residual juice.
4. With the thawed and decantered food on the bottom of the glass I add 3 to5 drops of Selcon and 3 drops of garlic extreme (it really soaks up since the food has been dehydrated if you will...).
5. I cover the glass top with some cellophane and put into the frig overnight. This gives the food a lot of time to soak up even more of the Selcon.
6. In the morning I simply add some tank water to the glass and get the food into suspension.
7. Pour contents into the tank and the fish have a party.
8. Great food source, high in nutrition and no phosphates!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10860425#post10860425 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by deucetowe
I'm always super paranoid about getting chloramines/chlorine from tap water into my tank. When rinsing out powerheads/skimmer collection cup, I dip all peices into RO/DI water with Prime added just before I dry them to be sure. Are you never worried about the chloramines binding to the food and then the fish eating it?

I might be overreacting, but I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on that. Would save me a ton of time!

Definantly over-reacting. Did you know that 55% of that salt mix you mix with your RODI water is chlorine? Well technically chloride, which is chlorine with an extra electron.
 
damn that sounds like a lot of work,....might as well do that in a big batch and have "dejuiced and selconed" food already made
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10860796#post10860796 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gdevine
...and vitamins...and other nutrients.

When you take a shower, do all the vitamins and minerals you have consumed (ie. in your body) wash away?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10861950#post10861950 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Gdevine
OK, here's what I do:

Pour out the juice and wipe inside of glass to get residual juice.

Oh, missed that part. That's cool then :cool:

I prefer to be more thorough. Anything like vitamins and minerals and nutrients should be within the food I am feeding, not coating it. So quick rinses should remove no more than what will be removed into the water column as soon as the food is added to the tank anyway.
 

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