Sand or No Sand???????

glaspie69

Premium Member
I'm in the planning stages of a 40 breeder because my new 24 gal tank is just to small. My delema is I had sand in my 75 and I ended up taking it out about 4 months before I sold the tank. My current tank is bare bottom also but, I tend to miss the sand.......I like BB but I think it takes something away from the tank....look wise and stability wise. I've noticed that it's much harder to maintain my water quality without the sand. It might be the smaller tank which is making them sway but I just can't get them stable. My question for everyone is.....What do you think?????Look wise and Water Quality wise?????

Now I have to add I just ordered a pretty large skimmer (rated for 125 gal) so I'm sure it will keep up.

Thanks Jason
 
You know your gonna put sand in the thing, then in a month or two decide you dont like and take it out.....might as well skip that step.

;)

JMO and i know how you are.
 
sand

sand

Just set up a new 40 gal sump I put 80 lbs of
aragonite Fiji sand in the middle.
I put one more inch in the main 125 and the 75
The second 125 dry right now is going to have 4+” of Fiji found a place in Madison that has it for .99 lb.
I think it is worth the hassle. From what I can see Tell me if I’m wrong.
If you are really trying to re-create a small reefscape the sand is a must.
If you are want just to propagate corals and do away with the problems that can arise then go bare bottom.
This is just what I see and read Am I right??? Or wrong??
I love corals, but still want a sand bottom.
RR
 
Hey Jason,

Its a tough call and its really up to you. While I like the look of bare bottom in other peoples tanks, its just not for me. I like the look of the sand, I also think it adds another level to the little ecosystem created in a tank and adds potential food for the corals. As to water quality, I have 3" of sand, 0 nitrates, 0 phosphates, no hair algae etc.

Allen
 
I prefer sand. Looks more like a natural reef to me. I've had a 5" sandbed for almost two years now without problems. Besides looks, it also provides another food source for corals and fish.

And of course there's the fact that some fish do better with a sandy substrate.

chris
 
The strength of a bb tank is the control that the reefkeeper has over the tank's parameters. If you are just keeping LPS and softies control doesn't really matter. You can keep those corals alive in a 5 gallon bucket. On the other hand, if you are keeping SPS then having control becomes a bigger deal(I would say that the control of the colors is the source of the fun for me). The rest of this post regards sps tanks.

Once you have figured out how to keep the basics (temp, salinity, alk, calcium) under control, there are only 2 parameters that an SPS keeper needs to adjust. One of them is the lighting, and the other is feeding. Longer/more intense photo period will lighten corals, and heavier feeding will darken them. Finding the right combination is how you acheive success. The adjustments are easier to make in a bb tank, because there is no semi-constant (sand bed) leaching or absorbing nutrients. If I reduce the feeding in my bb tank, the nutirent levels drop quickly and the change in the corals is obvious in no time. In a tank with sand, the adjustment of feeding has less of an effect, because the sand bed is the product of past water quality and will continue to effect the tank after changes are made. The claims made in above posts that the sand creates another ecosystem and thereby food for fish and corals is exactly why I prefer a bb tank. It really is a simple as that.

The control you have over water quallity with a bb tank comes at a price. The tank is less forgiving. On the other hand, if you do a big water change in a bb tank, your new water quality is completely independent of your old water quality (except for the effects of the rocks which is where rock cooking comes in to play). In a tank with a nutrient loaded sand bed, a big water change will have less of an effect because the sand bed will come back into equilibrium with the water, thereby reducing the water quality. So although the bb tank is less forgiving of day to day stuff(ie keep a very strict routine) it has a greater ability to be put right quickly. This is one of the main reasons why the original bb proponents (bomber etc.) preferred bb tanks. They were keeping tanks that were far too large to be torn down and reworked when their sand beds became overloaded. This is not as much of a concern on a 40gallon breeder.

Obviously there are tons of great tanks that have sand beds and that are bb. Either method works. One just has more control and costs more to set up properly. Some people like the look of sand beds, others like bb. Of course, in an sps tank neither a sand bed nor bb is at all natural looking. So, looking to nature as your inspiration is a bit misguided. Let's just be honest and admit it is personal preference.



Brad
 
I think I might have to go back to a small sand bed.....I just miss the look. I love the clean water of the BB but not the look, and I think the fish react different in a tank that has sand......
 
I think I'm going to get the stuff that looks like flakes.......it has always seemed not to blow as much and it looks pretty much the same
 
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