Score; Lionfish 1, Vet 0.

ok what exactly is a specialist in a hospital....prob someone who knows what they are talking about right? I dont think the point of "Kevin said it" changes much...these fish should come with a warning when they are sold or not sold at all end of story......this guys story cant be be put under a bunch of assumptions....like iv said ive read other storys of charging lionfish and everyones bodys are different...unless ur the doctor or specialist i wouldnt doubt a story like this .....
 
Too bad he didnt do some homework on RC....:lol: Still is very hard for me to believe that anyone involved in any form of medicine (cats, dogs, horses, humans...etc) wouldnt know to use benadryl to counter an allergic reaction or epinephrine? True that the shot would work on him much faster if he was in the state that the story portrays....but the whole thing really makes me scratch my head and wonder. But again i have never been stung either!

If he got hit with 6 spikes from an adult lion he definitely got a good dose and if he was convulsing on the floor as the story said he could have died from cardiac arrest if not treated due to the stress on him alone. But why not dial 911....? If your girlfriend was an EMT.... thats one thing. I guess your train of thought wouldnt be so good when your writhing about on the floor in front of your tank.

Thanks for sharing the story though....
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6711635#post6711635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hound
ok what exactly is a specialist in a hospital....prob someone who knows what they are talking about right?

No, not necessarily, based on how most articles get written. "Specialist" could be a first year resident; you'd be amazed at how much that stuff gets twisted around. Also, very few, if any people in hospitals know anything about lionfish venom. In one of the articles about this story there was a quote about no one knowing what it was or what to do. To go from that to a "specialist" who is declaring a timetable on a prognosis is iffy at best. There's also the fact that, as mentioned, no article really mentions them doing anything other than the benadryl. When I was in medical school, one of my classmates was labelled as a "specialist" in an article.

As mentioned several times, unless you're allergic to the venom, or have a serious chronic illness, you're unlikely to die from a lionfish sting. The symptoms he described are not typical for anaphylaxis.

I don't remember the details of Frank's stining, but IME, people get stung or bitten when they're not paying attention, ie, being careless. That's been true every time things like this have happened to me. I make every effort to watch any venomous animals in tanks I'm working in, and, if possible, I work to keep something between me and them (such as a net, or a small piece of eggcrate. It doesn't take much). Do I do it because I'm worried about dying? No, I do it because I don't like unnecessary pain. Also, now that my career is built around my hand's ability to perform surgery, I can't risk getting an infection.

Dave
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6711635#post6711635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Hound
these fish should come with a warning when they are sold or not sold at all end of story

In that case, considered the amount of potentially pathogenic bacteria in an aquarium, then EVERYTHING that goes in there should come with a warning.
It's not like this is a blue-ringed octopus or stonefish (which have a whole different level of venom).

Dave
 
A warning...

Like the one on my hair dryer that says "Do not use while bathing."

Or the one on a bottle of drain cleaner that says "Do not take internally. May cause severe burns."

That kind of warning?
 
Maybe they can get someone to Tattoo all the lionfish with the warning;

"Warning, spines are venomous. Keep hands away from spines. May cause severe reaction. Not manufactured or handled with peanuts."
 
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