scorpion tank...compatible?

[rayn]

I have setup a scorpion tank and it currently houses a inimicus didactylus. Once he is settled and eating well I would like to add two more fish to the tank and be done with fish for that tank. Wondering if they would all work and others is a certain order I need to go with the last two.
1. Amblyapristus taenionotus or sailfin scorpion
2. Choridactylus multibarbus or sea ghoul

I will be settig up a seperate QT for these guys to get them settled and eating before introducing to the main tank. I have already found a sailfin but not the ghoul. The ghoul I assume would want the substrate, but would the sailfin or just rockwork/ hiding spots.

 

[jarrod13]

The inimicus would potentially eat the sailfin, dEpending on the size difference.

Ghouls in my experience are far more skittish than the inimicus, so I think you would be having the same problem that you are having with him now. But each fish is different and it could possibly work.

Btw, did you put a top on the 40 when the inimical went in?

 

[rayn]

Oh yeah lid on the 40. I know the ghouls are tricky, but a ghoul with the other two would be cool if they all work.

The sailfin in looking at now is 2.5 to 3 inches long. If the inimicus ate him after not eating for two weeks I would be really bummed.

 

[rayn]

Here are a couple pics of what I believe is a sailfin. The lfs has it listed as a leaf fish. Sorry the guy was in the back corner kinda shunning me.

 

[Sitarangi]

I kept a gob and a ghoul together. they got along great!

 

[rayn]

You showed the pic of the two together, that was my inspiration. I just thought a sailfin would be cool in there too.

 

[Sitarangi]

The wasp and gob should get along together. The wasp mimics flora and tends to perch on rocks and the goblin likes to bury in the sand. As long as their similar sizes and well fed scorps generally don't see each other as threats and keep to themselves. Does that wasp eat well?

 

[rayn]

They got him in friday morning and I seen him friday night. They fed him four ghost shrimp and they were all gone in under a minute. Eating better then the goblin so far. I have it on hold till monday, but could you give me a id? Sailfin or leaf. Opinions on how it looks?

 

[jarrod13]

thats a leaf fish, hard to wean to frozen foods

 

[FMarini]

the images are of a leaf scorpion "Taenianotus triacanthus"
they are extremely slow feeders and require similarly mellow if not a species only setup for them to flourish.
Also as mentioned- they are very difficult to wean and require small live food

lastly your request for a "Amblyapristus taenionotus", is usually consider a "waspfish", (i know common names stink)

 

[rayn]

What do you mean by mellow? I was kinda thinking these were all of basically the same temperament. I understand they are all predators and they are aggressive in that manner, but would they all work in the same tank?

 

[rayn]

I would like to continue this discussion, bt I want to add that the fish died today at the lfs. They said it ate this morning and basically just fell over this afternoon and was dead.

 

[namxas]

I've had that happen with leaf fish before...they seem fine, eating well, and you simply find them dead. I'm not really sure why this happens, esp. considering the leaf fish in question was in a species setup and was weaned. Perhaps age, but who knows?

We've kept leaf scorps with waspfish (cockatoo and redfin) and ambon scorps and they've done fine in terms of feeding.

As for a multi-genus stingfish setup, I think you'd need to make sure it's large enuff so they can separate and you'll want to have them solidly on on the stick before you mix them, probably with the ghoul being the first resident.

 

[rayn]

They said there was no warning, it just dropped. I liked it cause it was the first yellow one I had seen. I had seen the brown or red ones, but no yellows. On your advice and knowledge of them I may stay away and try for the ghoul instead. Maybe a tank just for those two, ghoul and goblin.

 

[psykokid]

My yellow leaf did the same thing, had been in captivity for a few years and ate gut loaded ghosties with gusto. Came home one day and he was just dead.. no signs of any external trauma or parasites and water params were pristine.. who knows..

 

[rayn]

Maybe these fish aren't meant to be kept? Wonder how long their life expectancy is.

 

[namxas]

Some do fine, but other specimens, not so much apparently.

There are some species like the ambon scorp that we've only gotten to 10 mos max, but usually anywhere from a couple of weeks to a few months. It's too bad too, because they're sweet little fish that would do well in smaller setups.

Here are some pix...

 

[rayn]

Those are cool looking fish. They look fairly small too, how big are they?

 

[namxas]

Just 2"-3" or so...If you want something that looks very similar to the ambon, a Rhinopias frondosa is kinda like an ambon on steroids:

Pteroidicthys amboinensis

R. frondosa

 

[rayn]

The thread on lions and tangs, these guys got mentioned. I had to look them up and though they were cool. Sounds like they are still pricey, but would be a cool addition.