setting up new 75 and am not sure if over stocked

[stelliofleondis]

I will have 2 gold stripe maroons, one flame angle one coral beauty and one red stripe angle fish. So are there too many fish?
I will have a 30 gallon sump and it will have an algae scrubber and protein skimmer Thank you for your time and consideration

 

[stelliofleondis]

I also want a snowflake eel but am willing to go without 75 is pprob too small for a 2ft fish

 

[Cliving1]

I think you should bring the angel's down to 1 or two, not 3. I would avoid the snowflake. The maroons will own that tank. But if added later you could do other fish gobies, hawks, dottyback etc.

 

[Sk8r]

You have a nice 75 gallon clown tank, pretty well: they will own all of it, hate to say. The others are not likely to thrive. Angels can be touchy, and by experience, I had two clarkiis, a smaller species than the maroons, take half of a 100 gallon tank and put a neoglypt damsel in fear...which is going some. I gave them up because they have teeth and I was getting real tired of being bitten when I had to work on something in the tank. I have the maroons' close cousin in my 105, one domino damsel, who bosses other damsels: I've managed to keep other damsels with her in reasonable tranquility, but she definitely rules the tank. She's pushing 5" long and is very hefty and muscular.

 

[heathlindner25]

I would keep the Three Angels and get rid of the two clowns.

 

[stelliofleondis]

so I did some research and it turns out that maroons are terribly aggressive and I will not be adding them to the tank

 

[stelliofleondis]

I will just keep the three angels

 

[Sk8r]

That will be safer. Understand that aggression has a LOT to do with tank size: smaller the tank, more aggressive the fish. Maroons are highly territorial and they grow to about 5" when mature (which is real fast)---and when they are breeding they are even more territorial. They can be good citizens (relatively so) either by themselves or in a 200-300 gallon tank, because it gives other fish room to get out of their way. Your angels are quieter and just prowl the rocks looking for food, not bothering much. Good citzens with them are the watchman goby, basslets like the royal gramma or chalk bass, and the pearly jawfish; various shrimp gobies; and in general, well-mannered fish with an adult size around 3".

 

[scooter31707]

I will just keep the three angels

With that size tank and 3 dwarfs, I will just be prepared to rehome 1 of those, even possible 2 of them, as they mature. Just be watchful.

 

[ReefsandGeeks]

I think you'd be fine with the snowflake. Although they grow to 2 feet, it's not the same as having say a 2' shark or fish. The eels don't really need swimming room like other fish do. I have one in my 65 gallon tank and it's doing great so far and I love the eel. They are messy though, as in a high bioload, so good filtration is needed. And they like having plenty of caves in the rocks or PVC tubes to call home. Also you'd need a tight lid as they often try to escape the aquarium. Assuming he is compatible with your other fish (angels should be fine, as long as they aren't tiny enough that the eel would try to eat them) than a snowflake would be fine in a 75.

 

[monkeysee1]

If you have your heart set on clownfish (I'd think twice about putting ANY in your tank if I were you) I'd get a Snowflake, and DEFINITELY ditch the idea of Maroons - they are the MOST aggressive clowns out there, and the females get HUGE - and VERY nasty. Snowflakes seem to do okay in PAIRS, FYI.
I have two Ocellaris clowns - an onyx and white striped and an orange and white striped - and they are hellions enough as it is - very bratty - they need their little behinds swatted by my plastic stick once in awhile - damned critters! :mad2:

 

[stelliofleondis]

thank you for all the feed back I am building my own 75 from the ground up I will make a new thread for this and post the link to this one

 

[kowen]

If you have your heart set on clownfish (I'd think twice about putting ANY in your tank if I were you) I'd get a Snowflake, and DEFINITELY ditch the idea of Maroons - they are the MOST aggressive clowns out there, and the females get HUGE - and VERY nasty. Snowflakes seem to do okay in PAIRS, FYI.
I have two Ocellaris clowns - an onyx and white striped and an orange and white striped - and they are hellions enough as it is - very bratty - they need their little behinds swatted by my plastic stick once in awhile - damned critters! :mad2:

I have a perc that's as peaceful as can be. It's a voracious eater, but it's never shown any aggression to my other fish. It actually seems kind of oblivious to the concepts of territory or aggression.

 

[WatDatThing]

Is the Black & White Ocellaris less aggressive? How about 1 Black & White and the standard orange and white Ocellaris together?

 

[nereefpat]

Is the Black & White Ocellaris less aggressive? How about 1 Black & White and the standard orange and white Ocellaris together?

Less aggressive than maroons? Much less aggressive and much smaller.

And, yes, I believe people mix colors without issue.

 

[sde1500]

If you have your heart set on clownfish (I'd think twice about putting ANY in your tank if I were you) I'd get a Snowflake, and DEFINITELY ditch the idea of Maroons - they are the MOST aggressive clowns out there, and the females get HUGE - and VERY nasty. Snowflakes seem to do okay in PAIRS, FYI.
I have two Ocellaris clowns - an onyx and white striped and an orange and white striped - and they are hellions enough as it is - very bratty - they need their little behinds swatted by my plastic stick once in awhile - damned critters! :mad2:

Snowflake is still an Ocellaris clown fyi.

People in this thread seem to be mixing up species and trade names. Black and white Ocellaris can mix with a Orange and white no problem.

 

[nereefpat]

I have always got suggestions to not mix clown species in small aquariums. Is this a rumor or is it definitely a risk?

True.