Sicce pumps
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ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
I've seen people put extensions on necks of skimmers when they added pumps, or modded them to improve air intake, and the performance was great. I think if I need to add a 3rd pump, I'd also need a neck extension.
But I think 2 is going to be plenty powerful, with a chamber of 14-16" and neck length total (including in the cup) of 11-12".
But I think 2 is going to be plenty powerful, with a chamber of 14-16" and neck length total (including in the cup) of 11-12".
shelburn61
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How did you come up with this number? Just curious...
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
BTW I just discovered the Orca Systems website now lists the pumps and mod kits for sale. $109 for the pumps, $12 for the kits, and if you get a kit with the pump it's $118 total. No idea how long they have had them up there. www.protein-skimmer.com is their website.
They are measuring around 21lpm on an RMA23 (I think) that has noticeable restriction. On my RMA22, I was measuring 17 or 18lpm on my modded Sicces. I then opened up the connection on the meter, so that when I connect it the water level in the skimmer does not move at all. The meter now measures 24. So the restriction was resulting in an under-reading of 7 or so. It is possible that the 21 they are reading with their mod kit is in fact a 24 or 25.
They are measuring around 21lpm on an RMA23 (I think) that has noticeable restriction. On my RMA22, I was measuring 17 or 18lpm on my modded Sicces. I then opened up the connection on the meter, so that when I connect it the water level in the skimmer does not move at all. The meter now measures 24. So the restriction was resulting in an under-reading of 7 or so. It is possible that the 21 they are reading with their mod kit is in fact a 24 or 25.
shelburn61
New member
The Quiet One 3000 is the same pump as the Sicce psk2500...
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
Model PSK-2500
Max Flow 2500 lph
Max Head(meters) 3 Meters
Quiet One 3000
3000 lph
310 cm max ht
These and other specs I could have copied are different.
Search any store, the cover is not the same. And the impellers are not the same. And the windings are not the same.
If you can get the same flow without mesh-modding the impeller, reducing the water intake properly, and devising some venturi, then more power to you! There's obviously more than one way to skin a cat.
This thread was about Sicce pumps, not Quiet One pumps. They are more expensive, yes. There's plenty of reason to believe they are more reliable, better skimmer pumps.
Nobody has said they are the second coming of the Messiah.
Max Flow 2500 lph
Max Head(meters) 3 Meters
Quiet One 3000
3000 lph
310 cm max ht
These and other specs I could have copied are different.
Search any store, the cover is not the same. And the impellers are not the same. And the windings are not the same.
If you can get the same flow without mesh-modding the impeller, reducing the water intake properly, and devising some venturi, then more power to you! There's obviously more than one way to skin a cat.
This thread was about Sicce pumps, not Quiet One pumps. They are more expensive, yes. There's plenty of reason to believe they are more reliable, better skimmer pumps.
Nobody has said they are the second coming of the Messiah.
luke33
In Memoriam
Don't know why you quoted yourself but ok ; ) Anyhow, the sicce 2500 and QO3000 are both 780gph. The QO4000 and sicce suprema are both 1018gph. They both perform the same as the other. The only difference is the price tag.....and one is made in italy. Which one is actually better is hard to tell......but the one is much cheaper. And both will work the same. One just seems to have this hype around it.....and i own one. lol. It pulls 35scfh's stock. This is kinda like the red dragon vs laguna argument except there price difference isn't 20x to 1.
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
I don't know how that quoted post got there. Didn't intend to do that!
So 2500 = 3000? There is no difference there? My math skills must have seriously deteriorated.
I don't know the scfh scale and can't find a good calculator. How does that compare to 24lpm?
Not that this is relevant. One is made in Italy, the other, just guessing here, in China?
So 2500 = 3000? There is no difference there? My math skills must have seriously deteriorated.
I don't know the scfh scale and can't find a good calculator. How does that compare to 24lpm?
Not that this is relevant. One is made in Italy, the other, just guessing here, in China?
luke33
In Memoriam
Here's a good scale for ya for future ref's
http://www.randystacye.com/images/diyventuri/AirSCFHConversion.xls
And yes you are correct 16 to 24 but the 16 is unmodded. After mesh and a venturi mod it'll be pulling 24scfh no prob. And I wouldn't recomend putting the QO in your mouth(lead paint may be there)
Like i said, i don't want to argue. For a reference the QO 4000 has always been qoted at 1018gph but the sicce suprema which is supose to be 4100lph or 1017gph has been quoted at 900, 990, and 1018gph on various sites. The sicce's have had issues with ratings because of 220v, 120v models. But like i said, both will pull alot of air.
http://www.randystacye.com/images/diyventuri/AirSCFHConversion.xls
And yes you are correct 16 to 24 but the 16 is unmodded. After mesh and a venturi mod it'll be pulling 24scfh no prob. And I wouldn't recomend putting the QO in your mouth(lead paint may be there)
Like i said, i don't want to argue. For a reference the QO 4000 has always been qoted at 1018gph but the sicce suprema which is supose to be 4100lph or 1017gph has been quoted at 900, 990, and 1018gph on various sites. The sicce's have had issues with ratings because of 220v, 120v models. But like i said, both will pull alot of air.
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
My skimmer has arrived!
My skimmer has arrived!
Orca Systems, 10" chamber, 30" tall, 6" neck. Insump recirc (Sicce pumps get hot out of the water - no venting mechanism or something). PUmps pulling 24lpm and 22lpm, one at 32 watts the other at 41 watts (no idea why the lower air draw one is running less efficiently but there you have it).
Pics after about 24hrs of use:
Whole skimmer:
Chamber:
Neck:
Pumps:
Bubbles halfway up neck in cup:
My skimmer has arrived!
Orca Systems, 10" chamber, 30" tall, 6" neck. Insump recirc (Sicce pumps get hot out of the water - no venting mechanism or something). PUmps pulling 24lpm and 22lpm, one at 32 watts the other at 41 watts (no idea why the lower air draw one is running less efficiently but there you have it).
Pics after about 24hrs of use:
Whole skimmer:
Chamber:
Neck:
Pumps:
Bubbles halfway up neck in cup:
ostrow
It's Dr. Goodluck Himself
look in their gallery. 1-pump sicce skimmer on 8.5" body. www.protein-skimmer.com, click on products then on gallery.
