Solaris Led lighting systems
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Musho3210
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Who said i didnt know anything about fan cooling, i have used fans to cool my freshwater tanks, i dont use my air-conditioning in the house unless its really hot or i have guests over. I have cooled my 20 gallon tank with a fan since the start of the hot weather here in chicago, and it is working great. From 83 to 80 degrees with 1 fan, sure i top off more but im not going to buy a chiller. I dont mind the evaporation. And its not the water that you add that cools the tank, its the water that evaporates, using a fan raises the evaporation rate that cools the tank down. Its how fans work when they blow on you. What are you talking about when you are saying no matter how hot the tank is, adding more water isnt going to help or whatever you said.... Probably never took a science class in your life...
Fans lower temp at the expense of more evaporation. Chillers lowers temps without the high rate of evaporation fans cause. So if you dont want the extra evaporation from a fan, use a chiller.
Fans lower temp at the expense of more evaporation. Chillers lowers temps without the high rate of evaporation fans cause. So if you dont want the extra evaporation from a fan, use a chiller.
Wolverine
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10107584#post10107584 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PSam
Seriously, show me real data. Gore pointed out an article re: melting ice shelf on western side of Antarctica. I took a moment to find his source. The abstract did indeed mention the melting of the western shelf. Too bad Gore didn't read the next paragraph, where the Eastern shelf was growing...Skewed, inaccurate. Vomit.
I think that's enough political discussion for the thread; we'd hate to have to stop it after all this time.
My understanding is that the Eastern shelf is growing in area at a similar rate to the Western shelf loss, however, the volume loss is much greater than the volume gain, because the shelf being lost is significantly thicker.
As for real scientific information on the subject, just start going through the reference documents for the IPCC report (since people have been convinced that the report itself is too politicized).
The success of that is quite variable depending on where you live.
Dave
BeanAnimal
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I suggest you read my post above on evaporative cooling. IT IS NOT THE ADDED WATER that cools the tank. It is the evaporation OF water that cools the tank.
Again, I suggest you read the post above. My fishroom gets well above 80. Evaporation is how I keep my tank temperature at 79.
There are several ways to cool a tank. A chiller is certainly an option. The point here is that the "Solaris" savings are based on silly chiller operational numbers. Like everything else being compared, they have used very extreme numbers to skew the reality.
stimpy4242
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I am not saying it is impossible...but look you are running four or five fans extra...i am not...regardless of cost for those fans...its still a cost...and a noise i might add...maybe not much....also you are running lights that are using more energy...so i guess I am saving money
stimpy4242
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hahnmeister...i did not say impossible i said only few people have that...
stimpy4242
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This all comes down once again to the bottom line...I am saving money...i hate that you all won't admit that leds run 40% more efficient in the solaris. I don't use a chiller...ok fine neither do you...ok I don't use a fan either...and my tank is completely enclosed and I use internal pumps so my tank is completely silent and looks impeccable...I lied i use a reeflo dart on my CL...so that is silent...I spent a lot of money to have an hugely drilled custom tank so as an experienced reef keeper you could not even identify a man made object...that was my goal...hence the solaris fits right into this natural environment...I have spent lots of excessive money to achieve this...and with the solaris upgrade my underwater ecosystem is complete...like a little underwater world...i lies i guess you could pick out the tank...haha
RichConley
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Its not a matter of people admitting things. Its a matter of physics.
The LEDS aren't more efficient. Theyre significantly less efficient. I've posted the spec sheets for the specific LEDS. Again, you are pushing forward information that is completely false.
stimpy4242
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600 watts..on their website
RichConley
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And again Stimpy...MOST people who keep sps have 60+ with 100+ not being unusual.
stimpy4242
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go to the website...why is it there information is false and yours is right? just curious? check out the article that tested them...they even have a cost savings calculator enter information in....sigh i am so tired of this.
RichConley
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The reason its getting out of hand, is people like Stimpy, who simply dont understand the physics in here keep repeating false information.
the LEDS in the solaris are NOT more efficient than Metal Halides. If you dont believe that, take a look at the specifications for those LEDS.
This is not a matter of oppinion, and oppinion has no bearing on this. This is a matter of fact.
stimpy4242
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can you answer this question? My BGE elec is much less now...my corals are doing just as well as before...why is mine not better?
RichConley
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Have you never heard of marketing?
I posted the specifications for the LEDS. 35 lumens per watt. Roughly 1/3 the efficiency of a good MH bulb.
stimpy4242
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i have, have you ever heard of false advertising...they are submitting facts just like you...but i guess they don't know.
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