SolaTubes for reef tanks

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LiquidShaneo,

The 10in tubes will fit between the studs in the roof without any modifications. If you look at the 21in on the web page you sent it says for "Schools, Warehouses etc...etc...etc... I don't think that anyone would want to hack up there roof to fit one of these in there (or would they??).

Being an Engineer I thought about how I could fit some of the BIG boys in the roof but the wife thought it was overkill (like most of my projects) so that put an end to that thought.

It is obvious that I should of gotten pictures BEFORE posting this thread. That way I could of avoided the picture police:D
 
what about useing a poly filter colar changer like in the poorman 10k artical over the tube hole to change the spectum?whould it work?
 
eddie,

What?????

After the U.V. blocker was removed there was no longer an issue with the corals changing color.

I don't understand why you would place a colored filter over the tube. The fact that any type of "filter" will reduce the amount of light would defeat the purpose.

I'm not sure what you talking about, but if I'm mistaken in my assumption please correct me.:)
 
Eddie,

I don't think it's applicable. But you can't discount anything in this hobbie.

Interesting idea if you are using artificial lighting.
 
Eddie,

One of the attractions of natural sunlight is itââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢s unaltered spectra.

Many SPS coral come from shallow water where there is very little shift from ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œunfilteredââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ sunlight.

Or perhaps you were addressing the aesthetics issue.

Just about any ââ"šÂ¬Ã…"œfilterââ"šÂ¬Ã‚ might also filter out too much UV.

(Hopefully this wonââ"šÂ¬Ã¢"žÂ¢t set off another intensity vs. UV debate) ;)

Regards,

Scott
 
440cudaman
I got my ECO-Wheel directly from Aquatic Engeineers. 180 Gal tank and all. Shipping was not cheap! I beleive they are getting a few shops to sell them but i don't think there are many at this point. Love the system, natural, at least as much as an acrylic cube hundres of miles away from the ocean can be. That is why I was thinking about the solor tubes to round out the natural theam. I would love to see some picks.
 
I've been doing some research on this topic myself, with the intent of putting a trio of 21" tubes over an ~300G reef we're building into a new house. The intention is for this to be the primary lighting, with just enough supplemental electric light for evening viewing.

If you believe the manufacturer's claims, a 13" tube is equivalent to approximately 100W of flourescent or MH lighting (Sun Pipe claims 300-500W of incandescent, which would be a bit more). A 21" tube should be equivalent to a good 250W MH bulb. The part that's unclear is the conditions where this is true. I would hope this is average for a mid-latitude clear day. If so, the peak noon-time output could be double that.

Looking at it another way, if 50% of the light that hits the dome is delivered over the tank, and if I'm expecting a 21" tube to light 4 square feet, I'll be getting 30% of full sunlight hitting the top of the tank. According to a diagram in Adey's book, the intensity here in Pennsylvania averages about 2/3 of tropical, so I'd be getting about 20% of full tropical sunlight --- maybe more like 25% in June and 15% in December. Even at 15%, that's probably brighter than a 10m deep reef gets in the tropics.

A net search will yield at least half a dozen sources for tubular skylights. For best results you want one that delivers the most light through the tube. The most efficient tubes go straight down with no bends and have very high reflectance on the walls. Since the light will reflect multiple times on the walls, a difference of a few percentage points in reflectance can have a dramatic effect. Some have an acrylic dome, which is less likely to yellow than other plastics. Some also offer a reflective collar that dramatically increases the light when the sun is at a low angle (e.g., in December). I'm planning to use Sun Pipe, which seems to have all the right features.

I have a quote to install a pair of 13" Sun Pipe tubes for $680 to go over a refugium. That's new construction, so I would expect an add-on to be more. The advantage of a 13" tube is it fits neatly between your rafters. I have no idea what my 21" tubes will cost... that's buried somewhere in the cost of the house. Assuming each 13" tube saves annually about $50 in electricity and $50 in fancy light bulbs, the 13" tubes will pay for themselves in about 3-4 years.
 
Sun Pipe's web site says the 13" models average output for a sunny day in Chicago in June is 750 watts, WOW, 250 watts in Dec. On cloudy days according to thier graphs the light level actually ramps up faster but peaks lower. They say the 21" model puts out 3000 watts, holy blowfish batman! The graphs are very encouraging, if accurate they show very immpressive light levels like 2800 watts at noon for a 13" and an acceptible level of out put for a good portion of the day. I just have to figure out how to work these into one of my setups.:D
 
I know I will be looking further into these, IMO this is a cost savings on larger tanks and the yearly savings would be very benifical compared to burning halides. Still I think that the use of halides and the sun pipes is a must, I also wonder how well actinics would do in conjuction with natural sunlight.

I think that it would be possilbe to "tube" down into a canopy style hood provided the structure of the ceiling allowed.
 
wow.

wow.

wow, what a great idea - solar tubes! oh that gets me thinking... maybe some tubes on the tank and a refugium in the greehouse?!?
cudaman your tank sounds great. :cool:
 
Ok...I'm going to ask an obvious question here: WHY would you need/want a set of SolarTubes in a greenhouse of all places? I mean it's already lit by the sun... :D

FWIW, when I move to a better location I'm definitely going to investigate this for my tanks. :)

Shane
 
the tubes would be in my living room. the greenhouse is attached, but would be too much light and heat for the tank i would think, at least in the summer.
 
The Irony of it all:)

I just saw this post last Friday for the first time. I work as a mortgage broker and worked at this home and garden show this weekend. Well I went in there on Sat morning to see that Brighter Concepts Ltd - Solatude Tubular Skylights was right next to me! I had a break in the middle of the day, so I went and printed this out. When I had the chance, I talked to the sales guy, they were pretty busy. I showed this to him and he kind of just brushed it off (I think us addicted reefers scare people sometimes:)) He said it might be a decent market for them to get into. He didn't get a chance to read through all the post though. I did get a price list. To install a 10" solatube with a 2' tube it was $410, 4' tube $455, 12' tube $635. If you install yoursef, 4' tube $280, 6' tube $322. This is just to give you an idea, there were other options for sizes, length, fans and light fixtures to use at night. Seems very cool, but I want to see one in a home on a daily basis, before I would do it....especially in Wisconsin:D
HTH,
Gareth
 
I just ran across this thread today. About 5yrs ago, here in El Paso I set up a 300 gallon for a friend and his family. We used 3 21'' tubes spaced evenly over his tank.

On the roof the tops are a bubble cap with a reflective dish pointing south. Light is reflected down the tube from sun up to sun down.
He had low wattage incandescent placed in the tubes that come on for evening viewing, however we don't get much cloud coverage in the Sun City and the moonlight usually overpowers the bulbs.
The tank is mostly SPS with a few huge LPS. Incredible colors on all the corals.

As a side note, he had a contractor cover the tubes with ceiling "popcorn" (texture) to match the walls and ceiling.
 
EdKruzel, was there a need to supplement the natural sunlight with actinic's? Seems like it could be yellowish with natural only
 
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