SS / S Strain Rotifers in Chicago!

mwp

In Memoriam
I now have SS Strain rotifers! FINALLY! THEY ARE FREAKIN' TINY! I think I may have just obtained the magic bullet for the GBG, Leptacanthus and Mandarin larvae!

If any private marine breeder in the Chicago area would like to get set up with them over the next couple months once the cultures get going, PM me. I realize how hard these are to find (took me 6 months)...I'd normally divulge my sources but not sure if these guys WANT the publicity, so I'll just say thanks again to two anonymous parties who helped out (if they'd like to come on board the thread and take a bow, by all means guys, you deserve it).

I'm NOT looking to make money on this (if I had only picked up Rotifers my starter cultures were around $80 with shipping, it's ALL in the shipping, the person who sold them to me was VERY generous to help out). I really don't have the time to ship stuff much, so if you're in driving distance of Chicago and want a small starter culture once mine are established PM me and we'll work out the details...all I ask in return is that if my cultures crash you help me get back on my feet and that if you pass them along you don't SELL THEM but freely give them to folks in need (pay it forward, right?) and the new recipients should follow the same rules...they are not for sale, only to be freely given.

It'll be good to have these around in the hands of some experienced rotifer folk in the area. I may give order of preference to folks who have more immediate need (i.e. if you're only breeding clownfish you're at the back of the line if someone else is breeding things like watchmans or the planktonic cardinalfish).

This offer only stands until I decide otherwise, and only as extra rotifers become available. I DO put a lot of time into my cultures and have invested a lot, so down the line I may have to sell starter cultures of the various live foods I work with locally to help support my hobby...but for now, free starter cultures of SS - Strain in the Chicago area, as they are available.

FWIW,

Matt
 
Rotifer network

Rotifer network

Is there interest in setting up a rotifer "chain mail", where each person is willing to ship to two others who have the experience to breed these rots and keep the strain uncontaminated?

No one person has the time to distribute SS rots to all the hobbyists across the country. But if mwp was able to ship out two batches, and those two people shipped to two others, before long we'd have SS all over. People could sign up on this thread, and would pay the shipping charges. Just a thought.

Happy reefing,
Jon
 
Well, the biggest problem I've found is finding good cultures of what you need consistently - i.e. I went through four Isocrysis disks from FAF before finally getting a live T-Iso culture from Seahorsesource that has done nothing but flourish! So $100 later I have Isocrysis.

IDEALLY what we as fish breeders really need is a consistently reliable source for ALL our cultures. Locally, I could provide L and SS rotifers, copepods, Nannochloropsis, Nannochloris, T-Iso and Tetraselmis, but I really don't have the time to ship stuff all over the place....

The only long-term downside to creating a rotifer "chain mail" (besides having to personally make two trips to FedEx) is that if we suddenly distribute SS rotifers all over the country to current breeders, there's no commercial incentive for someone to offer them up! The reality is that a commercial source that always has them is what we all really need in the long run, right? I don't want to compete with the folks who helped get these rotifers to me in the first place because they're just starting production...why should they stick with it if suddenly we're all sending cultures around the country for free?

Not trying to kybosh your idea Jon, but I do see a distinct long-term downside to rotifer availability if we try something like this, thus why I just want to get them to some local folks who need them and are willing to act as back-ups for each other...

Just my $0.02...

Matt
 
Well there is a few persons who have the capacity to distribute those rots for a fee of course, the reason they are not doing it is because there is no demand for it. Hence the difficulty of obtaining them.

Your idea is exellent if you could do it with pods that are really necesary when it comes to small larvae.

Ed
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7441818#post7441818 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwp
Well, the biggest problem I've found is finding good cultures of what you need consistently - i.e. I went through four Isocrysis disks from FAF before finally getting a live T-Iso culture from Seahorsesource that has done nothing but flourish! So $100 later I have Isocrysis.

IDEALLY what we as fish breeders really need is a consistently reliable source for ALL our cultures. Locally, I could provide L and SS rotifers, copepods, Nannochloropsis, Nannochloris, T-Iso and Tetraselmis, but I really don't have the time to ship stuff all over the place....

The only long-term downside to creating a rotifer "chain mail" (besides having to personally make two trips to FedEx) is that if we suddenly distribute SS rotifers all over the country to current breeders, there's no commercial incentive for someone to offer them up! The reality is that a commercial source that always has them is what we all really need in the long run, right? I don't want to compete with the folks who helped get these rotifers to me in the first place because they're just starting production...why should they stick with it if suddenly we're all sending cultures around the country for free?

Not trying to kybosh your idea Jon, but I do see a distinct long-term downside to rotifer availability if we try something like this, thus why I just want to get them to some local folks who need them and are willing to act as back-ups for each other...

Just my $0.02...

Matt

There will always be a market for the commercial production of "ss", no matter how much hobbyists trade via internet fourms :D I wouldn't fear hurting the people that gave them to you, rotifer cultures crash quite often as most have found ;)
 
Luis, I wish I had a microscope, but things like a new car are gonna take priority for the next couple months ;) Suffice it to say they are FREAKIN' TINY...maybe 1/10th the overall mass of a L-Strain rotifer??????

Matt
 
I think I'm with Edgar here, if there was a significant market for these rots someone would have filled it by now. If a few hobbyists can successfuuly culture them surely Randy or FAF or someone else would have done it by now. Like E said, it probably just isn't profitable for them. I like the hobbyist's exchange idea myself, I have no trouble making a few runs to Fed Ex. I don't have a dire need I suppose but do have the bluestreak cardinals I'd like to try plus I'm curious to know if they would help with the orchid dottybacks. I know they can be raised on L strain rots, just not by me :rolleyes: Put me on the list if such a list emerges :D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7462122#post7462122 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwp
Luis, I wish I had a microscope, but things like a new car are gonna take priority for the next couple months ;) Suffice it to say they are FREAKIN' TINY...maybe 1/10th the overall mass of a L-Strain rotifer??????

Matt
Sure,a car is a car,you canÃ"šÃ‚´t drive a microscope:D
It would be good if someone,sometime could measure them though,may be you found some freaking holy grial:p
I once measured my L and SS but canÃ"šÃ‚´t find where I posted it right now:confused:
 
trying again

trying again

Seems copy and paste simbols didnÃ"šÃ‚´t happen.

L-rotifers 219 +/- 13 um
S-rotifers 176 +/- 16 um
SS-rotifers 147 +/- 11 um

Anderson.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7463856#post7463856 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Luis A M
Sure,a car is a car,you canÃ"šÃ‚´t drive a microscope:D
It would be good if someone,sometime could measure them though,may be you found some freaking holy grial:p
I once measured my L and SS but canÃ"šÃ‚´t find where I posted it right now:confused:

I think it was one of NicoleC's posts.
 
It's part of our game plan to start culturing SS rotifers and make them commercially available. To-date there has not been a lot of demand for them so we haven't made them a priority.

If somebody would like to send me the "Chicago" culture I'll be happy to have my techs take a look at them and report back the results on size and any other interesting characteristics (and maybe some pictures). I'll pay for the shipping.

If you are interested please contact me offline at randy@rotifer.com (that's easier than typing randy@reedmariculture.com).
 
Randy, would SS type be suitable for frogfish larvae?

I've been giving them the larger rotifers, but lost the last of the fry 7 days after hatching. I think it was a water quality problem, but don't know if SS would have been more appropriate.

New batch of fry are due to hatch in about 4 days :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7468533#post7468533 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by seafarm
It's part of our game plan to start culturing SS rotifers and make them commercially available. To-date there has not been a lot of demand for them so we haven't made them a priority.

If somebody would like to send me the "Chicago" culture I'll be happy to have my techs take a look at them and report back the results on size and any other interesting characteristics (and maybe some pictures). I'll pay for the shipping.

If you are interested please contact me offline at randy@rotifer.com (that's easier than typing randy@reedmariculture.com).

:D We have a source of these Randy, I'd call them "Campbell" cultures :lol: Thanks again Tyler :D
 
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