Starting Over (Literally) - My upgrade to 270G

kelhuffman

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Since we're all whores for fresh posts in this forum its my turn to start one. I've been absent on the boards for some time now and have just been lurking while I contemplated the move of my old 120G and the setup of my 270G. For all of you who post regularly in this forum my thanks go out as I've used a lot of your info and designs in my own new setup. THANKS!

I should have called this thread "the good, the bad, and the ugly" as my move and upgrade has been a nightmare. First the good. We bought a new home 5 miles from the old and that home came with just the things I wanted, one decent space for a built in tank, and a (unfinished) basement for the gear. Now the bad, my 120G tank in our old home was packed with great stuff and had all kinds of great sps that would love the new space I was planning for them. About a month before the move however many corals started showing signs of stress. I had a feeling it was water quality but I didn't have the capacity or the time to change a lot of it as it was a 120G with a basement setup of another 220 or so gallons and I was on the road for work all the time while my company imploded, my wife grew larger with our first child, and we rushed to close on the house and at least pour a concrete floor to set up the basement and make the transfer. Short story long, when move time came it was too late, the move (all of 5 miles) was a catastrophic event and I lost almost everything except for a few fish, two clams, some tougher LPS/softie corals and ONE acro. Murphy was there to start the disaster, each tank in my system was modular. He picked the night I unplugged them from each other to jam a heater and cook the basement 100G tank that was full. Hey Won brothers you owe me! The GOOD that came from that event is that my blue squamosa actually survived 100+ degree water that killed everything else. it gaped for 2 weeks but now is growing better than it did before. Then I lost more acros from the main system while I moved the basement setup over to the new house. The surviving acros were transferred, I made a judgement call on those that looked OK (a bad judgement call) and the night they were in the new place at least one large one croaked and set off the reaction that killed the rest, and most of the fish with it overnight. The UGLY is the pile of skeletons left piled in the back yard. So sad. Besides that heater, SO my fault on so many levels. Here's the 120G about 6 months before.

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but enough about that.....

but enough about that.....

I almost walked away from the hobby after that episode, but I had already ordered my new tank from Miracles and had paid half. Couldn't back out now could I!?!? But the few months off while the tank was built, shipped and then sat by my front door for a month while we dealt with little things like having a child, was a good enough break to get fired up about rebuilding. So here we go....

I have a custom 270ish Starphire 72x35Wx25H from Miracles. The design philosophy is to install on a wall that, when covered with doors will look like an extension of my kitchen. The in-wall dream was not to be in this home, but I think this setup will rock when finally complete. So I'll start a photo essay to bring me current and then add to it as things progess and I have time.
 
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The space

The space

The blue tape on the left floor marks the spot. The second marking was figuring out how long I could go before eating into dining space.

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I decided to sacrifice these cabinets cause they were in an awkward spot anyway. They also will allow me space to set up the external overflow, put some gear and punch outside for ventilation and plumbing down to the basement on the side of the house where other utility stuff runs.

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the build

the build

My documentation skills are lacking compared to others here so a lot of of the prep work didn't get photographed. Stuff like fans and plumbing going outside, the entire basement build (pouring floors, setting up the sumps and growout tank from the old setup etc.) So the following set of photos documents the tank build to date.

Stand goes in. 2x6's, built strong and lagged to the wall. This is technically on the 3rd floor of the house as I'm on a canyon hill in California so earthquakes are a worry. so lagging the stand but allowing the tank to slide is my best earthquake proofing I can come up with. Floors are not reinforced as tank weight is 150 lb/sq ft. I do more damage to a square foot than that!

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"objects are larger than they appear"

"objects are larger than they appear"

Tank goes in (had to hire some muscle for that move!) and 3/4" ply is installed for back and top of canopy. Side piece is just temporary support for now.

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Since everyone seems to have a photo of their spouse, child or pet in their empty tank, I had to take (and of course post!) the obligatory shot of them all!

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light it up

light it up

I agonized over lighting implementation for some time. While I'm happy with the aluminum rack I built and the lights I'm using, the cable system is a work in progress. I'm on to my second iteration of cable already (grip lock) but will probably go to some bike hoist mechanism.
The lights are 40x60" T5 on two icaps, and five 250W DE HQI's, phoenix and megachrome 14k's for now. Pendants are 3 RO III's in the back from the old basement setup and two new RO lumenmax IIIs. Before anyone freaks about power, I will not be running all these halides at the same time ever. Its my over priced version of sun movement, multiple point sources. I considered a track but ultimately decided it was too cumbersome for a 3 light minimum that I wanted for balance, and moving parts to me spell breakdown.

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In goes a week's worth of RO water after I installed white star board and a thin (1" if that) of sand since I can't do without sand for the look and for the critters that love it. The starboard will theoretically look better than nothing in the spots where the flow blows the sand too much. we'll see.

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and in goes live rock to test that nothing explodes! :)

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and finally....

and finally....

in goes the live rock and live stock that survived the great calamity. These were all living in the basement while I built this out. This is all I have for now. Basement shots to come and of course more as the tank progresses. In two weeks the cabinet facings show up from the kithen cabinet co., and not sure how long it will take me to install them. That fridge sitting by the side of the tank will end up being part of the bar that will extend out from the left of the tank. Hope you enjoy my long thread, I'm off to bed. Cheers!

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Hai Hauffman, how many day did you put your live rock after you put your live sand. be careful with you skimmer, because i saw your tank near the kitchen. all the smeel of cook will suck up of skimmer. thank's
 
pretty sweet build..my only question is why didnt you place a sheet of 3/4" ply on the top of your stand? looks like your tank does not have trim on the bottom, and needs to have a fully supported bottom. what is the spacing between those 2x6's?
 
live rock went in immediately. sand isn't live. live rock is years old so no need to cure. cooking smells in my skimmer? that's a new one but my skimmer is in the basement.

Thanks! The tank is trimmed so the 2x6's on the edge are supporting it. the cross beams are 18" apart and not touching the glass. lateral support only.
 
18" is a pretty long span for unsupported glass. as someone who used to build custom tanks i would really recommend a sheet of plywood on the top.
 
Can you explain your overflow/ Tunze box? Is it a rectangle?

It doesn't look like it extends across the whole width of the tank.
 
Sorry about Murphy.. Seems he left here for a while... Great restart though, looking fantasic. Congrats on adding a new reefer to the family too...:) Good luck..
 
Regarding unsupported glass, the bottom would not rest directly on a piece of ply even it was there since it has trim. Same setup as my last tank, the ¾” reinforced bottom floats and the only thing that would give it support is foam, which is a debatable method of glass tank support if you check out the posts on that subject. Nonetheless, if it breaks then the laugh’s on me.

The external box is the overflow and also houses 4 tunzes (yet to be installed. I have one 6200 running and 6100 transformer upgrades for my 6000s on the way.) It is obviously on the right side and is long enough (I believe about 22” wide and 5” deep) to just fit into the space of that side facing cabinet. That leaves me with about a foot of viewable space on the right side looking from the kitchen. It looks pretty cool and I’ll do more photos. The big gamble is whether or not 4 tunzes will give me enough kick off the opposite glass to keep decent flow on the near side where they are. The aquascaping design will have that area be species that don’t require as much flow as Acros. I also had holes drilled in all corners of the Euro bracing in case I do end up having to add more pumps. I have a bunch of 4002 Tunze classics so I could install those in a pinch. But the design is supposed to be equipment free, except for the return in the rear right corner. No closed loop due to lack of space at the back of the tank and to minimize noise of any kind where possible.
 
thanks guys. reworked the liverock a bit tonight and installed a second tunze. only 6000 until the bigger transformer arrives.
 
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