Step-by-step account of my first reef (with lots of pics)

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Good deal. Let's see what happens, maybe kalk is your problem.

By the way, everyone wish Mike luck tomorrow as he is running a marathon. Not only that, but the one cold streak we've had this year is right now. I do not envy him early tomorrow morning.
 
ugination87 - Thanks a lot.


The marathon was a blast! "Tad chilly" is the understatement of the year. It never got above 30 degrees, and the race was delayed 30 minutes to clear the ice off the bridges and some of the roads. After 3 miles I could feel my fingers and toes again and I shed my outer shell. The rest of the run was quite pleasant, and I finished in my goal time of under 4 hours. Even had a beer at mile 25 :). This was my first marathon and overall, a great experience.
 
I would imagine running an inhaling sub-freezing air isn't good for your lungs though. Glad you had a good time.
 
melev - My lungs never felt better!

Now, enough marathon discussion, let's talk about tanks again! As mentioned, I was a little busy over the weekend and didn't kill my flatworms. Now they're everywhere. Tonight I plan to siphon them out then treat the system. Hope all fare well (except for the little buggers - DIE, DIE, DIE :uzi: ). Since I'm so disgusted with the way my tank looks due to the bryopsis, I'm going to do something to improve the situation. I'm going to go ahead and mount the fan onto my light rack so that I can get rid of my clip-on fan. While I have the light rack off, I'll probably rinse out my SCWD with vinegar and clean out my Mag pumps (for the CL and the sump return pump). I plan to do all of this in a few weeks, so now I just need to buy a fan, and maybe a moonlight to mount on the rack as well.

I won't need a fancy IceCap fan with thermal control since I'll plug the fan into my ReefKeeper. My current fan is 6" diameter, and when it's hot outside here in Texas it cranks for much of the "lights on" period. That being said, will it be necessary for me to replace it with a 6" computer fan? Is there even such a thing? I guess what I'm saying is -- I need a fan recommendation.

As far as moonlights, I was thinking of this one. I could mount this to my light rack with industrial strength Velcro if necessary. Look good? Any comments would be appreciated.
 
One or two 80mm computer fans would be fine. I don't think you need a 6" fan.

I never use moonlights.

Remember, making lots of changes on a tank at once can adversely affect corals. Gradual is better, when possible.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6786487#post6786487 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Remember, making lots of changes on a tank at once can adversely affect corals. Gradual is better, when possible.
By "lots of changes" are you referring to all of the simultaneous pump and SCWD cleanings? If so then it may just be a necessary evil that I'll have to deal with. The only way I can remove my SCWD for maintenance is to remove my light rack. Having that rack off will greatly increase my ability to access the pumps for maintenance, so it seems like I'll have to do it all at once and hope for the best. I plan on putting a MaxiJet powerhead in the tank while the pumps are off to provide circulation and oxygen. I'll go over my plan in detail when the time comes to get suggestions for improved inhabitant safety.

Thanks, Marc, for the fan recommendation. I'd prefer to go with a single fan, since I only want to plug one device into my ReefKeeper, and 2 fans would occupy a fair amount of space on my light rack. I did a search on fans and came up with this one from Fry's. Folks also seem to be pleased with this one from Radio Shack. It seems that I could hook the fan up to a variable voltage power supply (available at Harbor Freight and Wal Mart) to allow me to dial the voltage of the fan to a level that would provide the quietest speed. How does that sound? I hope that would still work with my ReefKeeper; I can't imagine why it wouldn't.


Now for some updates on some old problems:

Flatworms
Last night I siphoned out all of the visible worms from the glass into a 1 gallon container. To test the dose of FWE necessary to kill the worms, I added the solution dropwise, and determined that I needed 4 DROPS of the stuff to kill the worms. This was over a 30 minute period, so I don't think I added it too quickly. I was disappointed in that despite this large dose (the box says 1 - 1.5 drops/gallon) there were still some worms alive. Well, I dispensed 90 drops into my system (that's 2 drops/gallon of system water) before running out of the FWE :rolleyes:. I anticipate finding worms when I get home, and I'll have to get some more FWE and treat again. John, you still have some from your raid in Dallas?

Bryopsis
THIS MAY BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END!! While treating with FWE, I pruned my forest of bryopsis. I noticed immediately that the stuff peeled off in much larger chunks than in the past, and it released from the rocks and corals much more easily. It appears that it may be dying back on its own. For those who have had bryopsis in their history, does this sound like a correct assumption? I sure hope so - I can't wait to be able to look into my tank with pleasure again.
 
There is a fan that you can get at Fry's that has a thermal sensor, and some of our DFWMAS members are buying them because they ramp up and down as necessary to cool the tank. I believe they were the 80mm size, and only ran $15 or so.

Congrats on the bryopsis peeling. That sounds good to me.
 
All right, Marc, I'll look at that fan, too, but I really don't think I'll need one with a thermal sensor since it will be plugged into my ReefKeeper, kapish?

Yeah, I hope the bryopsis is truly dying back like I suspect. I'm getting ready to get some more coral frags, and I was reluctant to do so since I expected them to just get covered in bryopsis. Every time I prune the stuff back I risk knocking off frags and toppling my aquascape. I've already knocked off one acro frag, and my 'scape almost went a'tumblin' just last night.
 
As predicted, 2 days after treating with the suboptimal dose of FWE, I've gotten a return of the flatworms. The numbers are not huge, although I'm out of FWE and I'm leaving town tomorrow for 5 days. I expect that when I return from my trip (skiing in Colorado) my tank will again be overrun with worms :rolleye1:.

I received my 5100K floodlamps and installed one over my refugium the other night. I was amazed at how "soft" the light is compared to the previous 2700K floodlamp. Hopefully when I get back to town my fuge will be overgrown with chaeto! My bryopsis is returning since my last pruning but the rate of growth appears slower. All things considered, the tank actually looks pretty good right now.
 
I should join the circuis as a prognosticator. I returned from Colorado last night and once again, the flatworms are fluorishing in my tank. Apparantly I am able to provide the optimum environment for their reproduction. Gonna need some more FWE :mad:. Additionally, the bryopsis is indeed growing back, as some of my corals are again obscured by the green plague. Looks like I've got some more pruning to do.

The good news is that there was no flood upon my return! All of the corals and both fish look healthy and happy, except for my green ricordeas (the ones on my avatar). I don't think they like my new Phoenix bulb. Their dark green and bright purple colors have faded tremendously, and they are no longer fully expanded as they used to be before changing the bulb. I hope they're still adjusting to the new light but they seem to fade more and more each day. Don't know how this will turn out. Guess that was good news mixed with bad.

Other good news is that the chaetomorpha in my fuge loves my new light bulb (the 5100K). I took note of how much (or how little) was in the fuge before leaving town, and last night there was a notable difference in the volume of macro occupying my refugium. This pleases Dudester!
 
That's cool about the macros, they will bind up a lot of wastes as they grow just harvest it regularly and either toss it or better yet give it away to friends or better yet yet trade some with friends.

Maybe you need to put someone in charge of that algea, like an urchin or a large turbo snail. In smaller tanks you are limited as to fish that'll do the job.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6864894#post6864894 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bax
That's cool about the macros, they will bind up a lot of wastes as they grow just harvest it regularly and either toss it or better yet give it away to friends or better yet yet trade some with friends.

Maybe you need to put someone in charge of that algea, like an urchin or a large turbo snail. In smaller tanks you are limited as to fish that'll do the job.
Mmm Hmm, the macro's really taking off! I'll be sure to harvest it as it fills my refugium. Hey John, can I get store credit for chaeto if I can't find anyone to give it to? I promise to kill all of the flatworms first!

As far as the algae is concerned, John visited my tank this past weekend and opened my eyes to the problem that I have. I guess I've been in denial and haven't taken notice, but instead of having a garden of corals in my tank, I instead have a disgusting outcropping of nuissance algae covering almost every surface of my tank. And it's not just bryopsis. There's green leaf algae, bubble algae (valonia), and a burgundy hair algae covering all of the rocks, the back glass, the return PVC for my closed loop, my overflow box, the corals, and even the snail shells (poor little guys). In summary, it ain't pretty. In addition I spent 3 hours pruning bryopsis on Saturday, and it's already growing back. Once again it was easier to peel, and it's a little duller in color than it originally was, so I'm still hopeful that it's dying back. Since I left for my trip I wasn't able to dose B-Ionic or add baking soda, so my alkalinity and Ca dropped severely (285 ppm and 6.55 dKH, respectively) so I've begun a major tune-up to remedy that. Hopefully by increasing my alkalinity and maintaining it at around 12 dKH I'll be able to get the bryopsis under control. As far as the other algae is concerned, I've also cut way back on my feedings. I'm down to about 10% of what I was adding to the tank, and I'm no longer spot-feeding my corals. My blue-legged hermit crabs have almost all moved into either cerith snail shells or nassarius snail shells, so this obviously has been at the expense of the snails. This may have resulted in increased detritus accumulation in the tank, so John is going to order me some additional critters, including Nassarius snails and a fighting conch to eat detritus and probably another emerald crab to help with my algae problem. I really wish I could get a tang or two to help with my algae but, of course, my tank's too small. If anyone knows of a fish that likes to eat macroalgae and would do well in a 30g tank, please let me know!

I treated the tank again with FWE (120 drops of the stuff) on Sunday and as of last night, I didn't see any worms. I realize that their eggs aren't affected by the treatment, so I'll be on the lookout for more and as soon as I see a couple, I'm going to treat the tank again. I plan to continue this cycle until the problem is eradicated once and for all. My worms may have developed a resistance to FWE, and I might end up trying Praziquantel if this goes on for more than 3 weeks. How does this sound??

OK, so this is pretty interesting. I mentioned that after a week of neglect (not adding B-Ionic or baking soda), my tank's Ca was 285 and alkalinity was 6.5 dKH. I checked the chemistry calculator and figured I'd add 4 tsp of Kent TurboCalcium and 3.5 tsp of baking soda to start to get my numbers near where I wanted them. Instead of adding them separately I thought I'd save a step and placed both powders into a mixing cup. When I added tank water to dilute them the solution immediately began to bubble over into my tank. Not being able to carry it across the room, I stupidly poured the entire brew into my tank. Well, the entire tank became a white cloud. This lasted for about 10 minutes before it started to clear. The water cleared after about 5 hours, but all of the rocks and corals were "dusted" with white powder, precipitated calcium no doubt. A few of the corals slimed a little bit, and my clownfish was quite freaked out about her sudden poor visibility, but nothing perished. Unfortunately, all of the nuissance algae survived the ordeal as well. Now I remeber the active ingredient in the volcanos I used to make as a juvenile delinquent - BAKING SODA. Interesingly, my calcium and alkalinity only increased a very small amount, and my pH actually increased by 0.1 immediately after this occured. I guess the chemical reaction neutralized both the calcium and the alkalinity effect of the baking soda, and the product of the reaction caused an alkalinization (increased pH) of the tank. So last night I added both chemicals again, only separately this time. I guess there truly are no short cuts in this hobby.

Enough bad news. On Saturday I got some new frags! All are 1-1.5 inch acroporas and include:
a. tenuis (moderate blue color from Bali)
a. nana (origin unknown)
a. hemprichii (gold color from Java)
a. can't remember the name (beautiful blue color)

This was part of a group buy that was organized by my bud John. A lot of folks who received corals have experienced some losses (long story, DEFINITELY not John's fault) and my a. tenuis and a. hemprichii are experiencing STN at the bases. I hope they make it. While cleaning my tank on Sunday during the water change, I also found a small coral, about the size of an eraser head, attached to 1/2 of a mollusk shell that was sitting in the sand. It's circular, flat, and mostly white with bright green spots around the perimeter, and it contains multiple beautiful little pink spots centrally around the mouth. I can try to get a picture of it, along with my other new corals, but my macro shots aren't really close enough with my camera to give any detail, so I'm not sure if the pics will be worthwhile. At any rate, I mounted this little coral along with its shell onto my aquascape, and I hope it grows so that I can eventually identify it. I just love hitchhikers!
 
Mike,

Yes you can bring in the chaeto to get some credit. Go ahead and don't give it to me before the flatworms die though :lol:

Seriously guys, there is algae everywhere. It's not as bad as Mike makes it sound, but Bryopsis is definitely NOT his only problem. When I had bryopsis, everything else was clear, I jut had the bryopsis. Mike has macroalgaes in his tank I've never seen before and many of them are very beautiful. Unfortunately, we're not going to be feeding them the Hungryman dinner they used to get and hopefully they'll die off soon.

On the flatworm subject I'd have to say I hate them.

I'm glad you didn't kill your tank with that little concoction Mike:bum: . I once found out that putting even a little alkalinity supplement in with the calcium supplement equaled intense heat. We tend to want to stay away from snowfalls and boiling mixtures in the reefing world.

The other coral was an A. Austera I believe like we discussed today on the phone. If any of you guys are looking for some great SPS frags, I highly recommend lasps.us as Tom there is just about the nicest guy I've dealt with. We have had some problems recently but I'm absolutely confident that Tom will take care of us. I received a superman montipora, a deepwater A. Turaki, and phenominally green with blue tips montipora digita and all are doing great in my tank.

I want to see a picture of this mysterious hitchhiker. While you're at it, post a pic of that other small hitchhiker we found that looks like a baby plate coral.
 
All right, John, I'll take a few pics. Of course that means it will be 3 weeks 'til I get them loaded onto Photobucket and another week 'til I post them here :D. Actually, as I gaze upon the title of this thread, I better do a lot better than that, eh?

When I caused that nearly-exploding snow storm in my tank, the first thing I did (after soiling myself) was check the temperature. It didn't increase by a measurable amount, which was fortunate, although as mentioned the pH did increase.

I'm going home now to check on my corals. I hope the STN has ceased. This weekend I'm going to get a fan and mount it onto my light rack. Hopefully that 4 incher will be able to keep up wit the cooling needs of my tank. It's been quite warm here lately and my larger fan is having a hard time keeping my tank below 82 during "lights on." While I have the light rack off, I think I'll clean my pumps out with muriatic acid. John, when you have a chance between parties and tests, please give me the protocol that you used to clean out your stuff.
 
Mike, credit can't be given to me, it was all Melev that taught me the joys of muriatic acid. Page 27 of his most recent thread http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=723722&perpage=25&pagenumber=27

I basically went out and bought a rubbermaid and blue chemical proof gloves, filled the tub with tap water and 2 or 3 cups of muriatic acid and let my skimmer run in it for about an hour. It was spotless when it came out. I also put my Mag 9.5 return in there to clean it and took it out after it stopped bubbling, around an hour as well. Your skimmer probably needs a good internal cleaning, seeing as how I never cleaned it with acid when I had it.
 
Thanks John, I remeber reading that in Marc's thread now. I'll probably go for it this weekend and clean just the Mag pumps. I'll save the skimmer for another day, since I don't want to do too much at one time. I'll do both pumps since I'll have the light rack off for the fan mounting, and that's the only way I'll be able to access my pumps and the plumbing. Guess I'll vinegar-out the SCWD while I'm at it.

Quick coral update - my 2 new acros have shown a small amount of advancement of the STN, still not sure if they'll make it. I also saw a couple flatworms, so I'll probably do another FWE treatment later this week to increase the killing pop of the stuff since it ain't cheap.
 
Keep being vigilant. If you feel the corals are going to continue STNing, it would be better to frag them in some healthy tissue and place them elsewhere in the tank to double your chances of keeping the coral alive.

Yep - no mixing the two products, ever. You got lucky, to be honest.

A lawnmower blenny might help with some algae on the rockwork, and would fit in a 30g. Turbo snails are big bulldozers, but do the job as well. And some starfish are algae grazers.

I have no experience with praziquantel - can't help you there.
 
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