Stocking list for 75 gal

[Ab129]

Does anyone see any problems with this fish list?

2 oscellaris clowns
1 melanurus wrasse
1 foxface one spot
1 orange back fairy wrasse
1 royal gamma basslet
1 spotted puffer
1 Black combtooth blenny
1 wheelers shrimp goby
1 powder blue tang (I know, but this is the one I want the most!)
1 fire red shrimp

Main concerns are
Would this be considered too heavy of a bioload for my setup?
Are there any glaring compatibility issues?

 

[mwilliams62]

Does anyone see any problems with this fish list?

2 oscellaris clowns
1 melanurus wrasse
1 foxface one spot
1 orange back fairy wrasse
1 royal gamma basslet
1 spotted puffer
1 Black combtooth blenny
1 wheelers shrimp goby
1 powder blue tang (I know, but this is the one I want the most!)
1 fire red shrimp

Main concerns are
Would this be considered too heavy of a bioload for my setup?
Are there any glaring compatibility issues?

Yes that would be to many for a 75gal setup.

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[nereefpat]

Negative on the powder blue, as it sounds like you know.

The foxface is borderline, but people do keep them in 75/90s. I would probably get a dwarf angel of some kind instead.

The rest looks fine to me.

Anybody think the puffer will be a problem with shrimp?

 

[ramseynb]

Negative on the powder blue, as it sounds like you know.

The foxface is borderline, but people do keep them in 75/90s. I would probably get a dwarf angel of some kind instead.

The rest looks fine to me.

Anybody think the puffer will be a problem with shrimp?

Yeah, and I'd add the shrimp before adding the wrasses as well. I've had wrasses with a cleaner shrimp and he never touched him, but he was huge and was in the tank first. The wrasse ate a lot of peppermint shrimp though! I didn't think he was big enough to eat any of them until I saw some antennae hanging out of his mouth. He did seem pretty proud of himself though.

 

[Ab129]

Will the powder blue really be that miserable in a 75?

 

[ramseynb]

Stocking list for 75 gal

Will the powder blue really be that miserable in a 75?

Yes and it will likely pick on all your other fish in that sized tank. If you really want a tang, look into a bristletooth tang or something. I'd still be pushing it IMO, but much better than a powder blue.

 

[Ab129]

Yes and it will likely pick on all your other fish in that sized tank. If you really want a tang, look into a bristletooth tang or something. I'd still be pushing it IMO, but much better than a powder blue.

Would introducing a very young powder blue and making him the last fish in make it any better?
Or would eliminating one or two of the larger fish from my list make it more palatable for the tang?

 

[Bent]

Does anyone see any problems with this fish list?

2 oscellaris clowns
1 melanurus wrasse will eat the shrimp and will harass the fairy.
1 foxface one spot i have one of these in my 75 that I rescued. It’s too big. I wouldn’t do it.
1 orange back fairy wrasse
1 royal gamma basslet
1 spotted puffer will eat the shrimp, as any puffer will. I’m unfamiliar with what your referring to as “one spot.” Got a scientific name?
1 Black combtooth blenny
1 wheelers shrimp goby
1 powder blue tang (I know, but this is the one I want the most!)no. You simply can’t put an active swimming near foot long fish in a 4’ tank. Your tank is half the size it should be. 125g 6’ tank is the bare minimum.
1 fire red shrimp lunch for the puffer and wrasse.

Main concerns are
Would this be considered too heavy of a bioload for my setup? most definitely.
Are there any glaring compatiblity issues?

Comments in red.

 

[Jesterrace]

As other people have mentioned the Powder Blue is a no. In addition to the size of the fish you have two other big problems with the Powder Blue. It is VERY prone to ich (more so then even other Tangs, which are already prone to ich). In a tank that small it will be very aggressive towards it's tank mates and super prone to ich since it is very likely to be stressed. 125 is the absolute minimum for them to be happy. The only Tangs suited for your size are the small Bristletooth Tangs (ie Kole, Squaretail, Two Spot, Tomini, White Tail Bristletooth) and possibly a Yellow Tang. I know Live Aquaria and other sites claim the Fox Face One Spot can go in your tank but IMHO they are wrong. They still get too big. I have a 90 gallon tank and would be skeptical of putting one in mine. I agree with Brent's assessment above. Get rid of the fish on your list that he highlighted in red. It will keep your stock more in line with where it should be for your tank and will result in happier and less stressed fish.

 

[flawedexistence]

Bent-If you're referring to the one spot Rabbitfish, it looks just like a normal Foxface with a large black spot toward the tail above the midline. Unsure if the taxonomy differs but I doubt it.

 

[nereefpat]

Yes. Siganus unimaculatus. It still gets about 8" long.

It's not ideal, because of its size and its venomous spines it uses when feeling cornered (i.e. smaller tank).

I'm not sure why several sites recommend 125 for S. vulpinus but 75 for the one spot. There's about an inch difference between them, if that.

 

[Bent]

Bent-If you're referring to the one spot Rabbitfish, it looks just like a normal Foxface with a large black spot toward the tail above the midline. Unsure if the taxonomy differs but I doubt it.

No, I was referring to what was called a one spotted PUFFER.

I don't know what that is.



The one spot Fox face, like I said, is too big for a 75g imo.

 

[Ab129]

Just a spotted puffer, not a "œone spotted puffer" lol!

Thanks so much for the replies.

So I guess I will remove the powder blue and the shrimp from my list.
I will see how it goes with the two wrasses and the foxface.

Spoke to LFS about the tang and he suggested I could get a smaller one and keep him until he gets too big for the tank but that just seems silly to me.
Not something I would consider. The smaller tangs don't do it for me, I found the colors of the powder blue to be the most appealing.
Oh well. I guess better to make the right decision now than to find out the hard way.

 

[thearsalan1]

I have a one spot fox in my 75 and he's gotten too big, I plan to move him to the bigger tank.

I have Melenarus wrasse with plenty shrimps and no issues, just gotta find a store that has it in a tank for a while with shrimps and no issues. They're hit or miss.

I'd also be concerned about the puffer and shrimps together.

As for the powder blue, I haven't had good luck with them in the 75, but maybe you will. Only thing is you might regret getting him if he ends up getting stressed and gives ick to your other fish.


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[scooter31707]

Just be watchful of the wrasses going at each other in that size tank.

 

[Bent]

Just a spotted puffer, not a "œone spotted puffer" lol!

Thanks so much for the replies.

So I guess I will remove the powder blue and the shrimp from my list.
I will see how it goes with the two wrasses and the foxface.

Spoke to LFS about the tang and he suggested I could get a smaller one and keep him until he gets too big for the tank but that just seems silly to me.
Not something I would consider. The smaller tangs don't do it for me, I found the colors of the powder blue to be the most appealing.
Oh well. I guess better to make the right decision now than to find out the hard way.

1: a green spotted puffer will have to be acclimated to saltwater as they are a brackish species. Keep in mind that there are reports of some going rogue and eating LPS. There are also reports of them being model citizens, so just know it's a dice roll. He will destroy the shrimp 100%

2: the foxface will get too big, I would just not do it. They are very skittish and cryptic anyway and as soon as it sees anyone it will run, camouflage and hide.

3: I would never ask a LFS anything except "œhow much". They would tell you to get a baby great white shark if it suited their needs. They are there to sell fish first.

4: the two wrasses will fight. Pick one not both.

 

[Ab129]

I do have a feeling that the melanurus, who has been in my tank with 2 clowns since January, is going to be territorial no matter who goes in with him based on the way he patrols the tank.
If I were to try the orange back wrasse with him would it help if I got one that was full size. Maybe that would have a better chance of success?

 

[monkeysee1]

I am in total agreement with all the other posters here: ANY oblong surgeon Tang (Arancanthuriae) like the Powder Blue is a definite NO in a 75. Consider a Scopas or Kole Tang instead. Smaller and not as persnickety or temperamental. I adore my Scopas Tang.
Fox faces get HUGE! Another no no.
I have two Ocelleris Clowns in my 90. They are little sh---ts. Be cautioned. YOURS will eventually get aggressive; If I had the stones I'd have introduced mine to The Tidy Bowl man long ago.
Consider an Orange Back Fairy Wrasse. I have one and he's very docile. Ruby Head and Yellow Flanked Faiey Wrasses are also very nice for a 75. But only ONE Wrasse in the tank.
I like the Blenny and Royal Gamma. I LOVE Gobies. You have lots of kinds to choose from for a 75.
Also, consider a Dottyback.
Best of luck!

 

[Jesterrace]

Just a spotted puffer, not a "œone spotted puffer" lol!

Thanks so much for the replies.

So I guess I will remove the powder blue and the shrimp from my list.
I will see how it goes with the two wrasses and the foxface.

Spoke to LFS about the tang and he suggested I could get a smaller one and keep him until he gets too big for the tank but that just seems silly to me.
Not something I would consider. The smaller tangs don't do it for me, I found the colors of the powder blue to be the most appealing.
Oh well. I guess better to make the right decision now than to find out the hard way.

It is silly and ridiculously impractical unless you had a larger tank waiting for one. Trapping and removing a fish IS NEVER as easy as it sounds and it is very stressful on the fish (the owner as well ).

 

[Ab129]

Possibly a dumb question but what the heck,
Would the wrasses and puffer go after the wheeler shrimp goby?

And as far as having two wrasses, will they bother each other or kill each other ?