Stratosphere Zoa

[dwebster86]

So why is this particular zoa SO hard to find? I"ve spent the last month trying to find anyone even with it, much less for sale.

I've heard the are melters, slow growers, etc. But still even with that, should still be more people with them.

Really sucks when I have the cash ready and cannot find them. I'm apart of about 10 different facebook groups and 4 different forums and know some of the most famous names in the zoa community. Like JPS etc. He has them, but won't ship of course and doesn't frag that often.

Very aggravating. Searching so long and still coming up short.

Same thing with Adonis.

 

[ryeguyy84]

try talking to these guys?

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2439471

 

[RuttingB]

Stratosphere

Stratosphere

Check Corn Bred corals on e-bay. he has been selling one polyp at a time.

 

[organism]

Check Corn Bred corals on e-bay. he has been selling one polyp at a time.

lol that's like one of the biggest scammers in the hobby right there.

 

[MUCHO REEF]

lol that's like one of the biggest scammers in the hobby right there.

The polyp or the seller, wow ?

 

[dwebster86]

He's talkign about the seller. And I've checked multiple times for CB. He doesn't have them

 

[terrypercula]

I know someone who has them but they're not ready for fragging quite yet. They'll be like $200 or $250 pp.

 

[650-IS350]

Not directed at anyone, but in general to this "HOBBY"

every coral you see now posted on websites/forums espically the newly hyped ones. MOST of the time you would see the picture under intense atinic, LED blasted. If someone put their hand in the picture their skin would look like a smurf.

my tank right now, lowered to lowest setting of white and low in blue as I've just introduced a bunch of new corals and yumas. So light acclimating at the moment.

 

[sde1500]

lol that's like one of the biggest scammers in the hobby right there.

If you don't mind me asking, why do you say that? Just curious because he has a pretty good rating on Ebay.

 

[organism]

If you don't mind me asking, why do you say that? Just curious because he has a pretty good rating on Ebay.

Let's start with how his pictures are pretty much entirely blue to the point that you have to wonder if he's playing some kind of Andy Kaufman type joke on us. Then to the fact that he buys expensive pieces from WWC, Cherry Corals and other well-known retailers, slaps his name on them and marks them up 1,000% with 1/4" frags. He's a shameless coral flipper with shamelessly fake pictures, not sure if they get much scammier than that. Essentially, he is what any one of us could be if we weren't so attached to both our dignity and any respect for fellow reefkeepers.

 

[terrypercula]

Let's start with how his pictures are pretty much entirely blue to the point that you have to wonder if he's playing some kind of Andy Kaufman type joke on us. Then to the fact that he buys expensive pieces from WWC, Cherry Corals and other well-known retailers, slaps his name on them and marks them up 1,000% with 1/4" frags. He's a shameless coral flipper with shamelessly fake pictures, not sure if they get much scammier than that. Essentially, he is what any one of us could be if we weren't so attached to both our dignity and any respect for fellow reefkeepers.

As far as prices go if people are paying it then that's their problem but learn about the guy before trashing him. Your rant is rooted in little to no truth. First off he doesn't get his coral from WWC they buy from the same wholesaler on occasion. From the picture point of view it's no secret the low end of the lighting range brings out the most intense color. That's why under a 6500 light a lot of coral will have a brown or green color and the same piece under actinic lighting in the 400nm-450nm range will almost hurt your eyes to look at. It's not a secret when you're selling something you're going to try and make it look as best you can. You wouldn't put a dirty car up for sale, you'd have it detailed or atleast wash it first. This isn't the only hobby where people pay for rarity or quality. Get into classic cars if you want to further my point. I get at first take he may seem like a scam artist but at the very least try and see his stuff in person, maybe meet Rich before spouting off.

 

[organism]

First off he doesn't get his coral from WWC they buy from the same wholesaler on occasion.

He does, and he buys from cherry corals and a few other retailers as well as wholesalers.

From the picture point of view it's no secret the low end of the lighting range brings out the most intense color.

Yup, but that argument doesn't apply to his pictures because they're so blue and so incredibly over-saturated that I'm honestly convinced he's doing it as a joke. He is literally the only vendor in the hobby with such fake pictures. You seem to know him better than me though... Is it a joke? Please say it's a joke. It would restore some faith in humanity if it's a joke.

I get at first take he may seem like a scam artist but at the very least try and see his stuff in person, maybe meet Rich before spouting off.

He seems like a scam artist at every take. Here's two of them. He's either a scammer, playing a huge practical joke on all of us, or the laws of physics and color wavelengths don't apply in his house. Only one of those seems likely to me, but he might also be really committed to his comedy.

 

[650-IS350]

Personally I don't pay that high for ANY coral and wouldn't. But your money you don what you want to do. I've never bought from Cornbread so I wouldn't know if the coral how its presented on the auction will ever look like that in one's tank, maybe unless I run an all atinic tank. But buy if you want, buy if you don't want.

reading this I found some images for all to decide.

 

[MUCHO REEF]

It's simply amazing that in 2015, pimpin is still so prevalent. Be it price pimpin, polyp pimpin or photo pimpin....it lives, wow ! I have seen a few of these corals and if you adjust the blue levels back to the substrate or the plug being close to a white spectrum.....then you'll see and know the true color of these corals. They don't look like these pics people.

People, just listen to these guys....they will save you a lot of money, heartache and possible coral mortality. I can buy a baseball size colony or larger of just about any zoa or paly for what many of these people sell a polyp or two to you that will most likely die, but that's another thread. This is all a game. Do a search in this forum for "pimpin ain't easy".

I don't know this seller so I can't speak on him.....but I will never and seriously refuse to pay what people today are charging. So +1 from me.

MUCHO REEF

 

[terrypercula]

Again as far as price goes you can't really get mad at somebody for selling something at a high price if people keep buying it at that price. However his coral is not misrepresented in the sense that if you have it under that intense blue, whether it be at night or you just run a more blue spectrum that is how that coral will look. If you hate the bright colors then yea you'll think his pictures are a joke but he knows who he's marketing too, there are plenty of people who are into that. That being said I'll say again in no way is his coral misrepresented, his picture is how it will look in your tank IF you run a similar spectrum. See his coral in person before making judgements.

 

[organism]

However his coral is not misrepresented in the sense that if you have it under that intense blue, whether it be at night or you just run a more blue spectrum that is how that coral will look.

That being said I'll say again in no way is his coral misrepresented IF you run a similar spectrum

It is literally impossible to have the red color in the pictures I posted have that quality without adding saturation and image manipulation. Therefore, it is literally impossible that he is not misrepresenting his corals. Also, my display currently runs under pure blue LED, it has since November, and even I don't have that much blue in my tanks. The images are manipulated, period. The proof is right up there in those pictures, it is not debatable but you can ask any good photographer if you don't believe me. If you want to argue your friend's ethics you've got a very uphill climb, but whether or not he's manipulating his images is not a matter of opinion.

 

[terrypercula]

It is literally impossible to have the red color in the pictures I posted have that quality without adding saturation and image manipulation. Therefore, it is literally impossible that he is not misrepresenting his corals. Also, my display currently runs under pure blue LED, it has since November, and even I don't have that much blue in my tanks. The images are manipulated, period. The proof is right up there in those pictures, it is not debatable but you can ask any good photographer if you don't believe me. If you want to argue your friend's ethics you've got a very uphill climb, but whether or not he's manipulating his images is not a matter of opinion.

Contrast and saturation has been adjusted, the coloration hasn't been altered what so ever. The coral IS that color period.

 

[akma]

I believe their hard to find because they are very picky with fragging. My buddy had a small colony. Fragged a few pieces and everything melted. I bought one before. Within 2 weeks it melted.

 

[m0nkie]

I bought one for 3 months and its still 1 single polyp.. very slow grower. My strawberry strat grows a little d
faster

 

[Jose Genaro]

Someones wants sell and shipping to Spain stratosphere zoa? Thank you very much mates.