Sumps and bio balls

05grandprix

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Ok folks I guess I will come up with something to post and see if I can get a discussion going since post were up and now have dwindled down.

Should a sump have bio balls in it with a reef system. I know there are variables like how much rock there is and the deepth of the sand bed. Corals are to fond of nitrates to where Fish can tolerate them more. Seems to me the bio balls would be home to raising the nitrates .

Now I've read to where if you have a sump with the balls it's more of a wet/dry filter than a sump but when the balls are not in the sump it's a true sump. I also undestand that by doing correct maintainence on the tank with frequent water changes, not over feeding, and good clean up crew will also help to keep nitrates down.

For example I do a 15% change weekly (20g), Feed sparingly once a day for fish, and every 2 days I will feed coral a 10mL mixture of arti-pods with oyster feast and roti-feast. I do have a heavy bio-load with the fish in the tank ( no more fish when these go to fishy heaven) I've got 2 true perculas, gold band clown, hippo, yellow, sailfin tangs, 2 Bali chromis, japaneese swallow tail, fox face, mandrine, and a dwarf lion. My levels are all on the first color indicator on the test kit ( the cards are at home I'm at work) except nitrates they are in-between the second and the third color. I've pulled my chemi pure out due to it was used up all filter floss has Been removed as of last night. It does however have a new bag of purigen. I've tried to reduce things with Prime but didn't change levels. I'm replacing the power heads today they have been acting up the new ones will more than likely be maxi-jets 1200 x's 3. The return pump is rated at 1190 gph(gen-x PCX-40)it's prob turning the water over 6-7 times per hour the valve is about 80% open to keep sump full. Btw for those who don't know it's a 150g cube.

ANY THOUGHTS AND INPUT is greatly appreciated and maybe it will help others that may have the same prob now or in future
 
You can run a reef tank with a wet-dry filter.Doing regular water changes will do wonders.You didn't mention a skimmer,that would also help.When I had my 120 running I would do 25 gallon water changes bi-weekly,my nitrates would sometime be 5ppms.
 
I have always categorized Nitrates as that proverbial "ping in the engine" of saltwater tanks. There are so many different possibilities but I will give you my input from what you have posted so far.

I have heard of some having bio-balls but mostly it seems to be in the smaller setups and not larger reef tanks or ones that have been in operation for a long period of time. But like everything in this hobby, what works on one may not be okay on another. I personally do not use them at all and never really have.

I always run a sump and a separate fuge when space allows. I find a well stocked refugium will go a long way in keeping the nitrates under control a lot better than most "snake-oil" chemical remedies on the market today.

You are doing good sized regular water changes so I won't even address that.

I did notice you mentioned pumps. Many people do not allow their tanks to have good enough circulation and often there are many trap areas in a tank where food particles will get stuck and can be hidden or even out of reach of the fish. I have been guilty of this one myself on occasion. It seems we always make sure the currents are just so for the corals but don't think about the circulation of the tank as a whole. Since you mentioned your pumps, think twice about your option for new ones. Look at some of the other brands and the areas that their flow cover, like the koralias and tunze. I find the MJ's are very strict in their pattern and don't cover very well unless they are modded.

Another highly overlooked potential problem in tanks is cleanup crews. We typically buy lots after the cycle and after that they often don't get replenished well enough, sometimes not at all. Over the course of 6-12 months you can expect to lose a lot of your crew and should be replenished regularly to ensure good cleanup of waste in your tank.

Other than these few things, make sure all filter media, sponges, skimmers and pumps are cleaned and changed regularly.
 
I was always taught, when I first started reefkeeping, almost six years ago, that bio balls were nitrate traps. I sold a large bag of them at a frag swap and the owner of one of the reefshops in Memphis bought them. He informed me he kept them in all his tanks. However, I have never used them.
 
Everywhere I have looked online says the same that they are nitrate traps... Well I pulled our 3 walmart sacks full of bio balls, but I noticed last night after I got back from alabama that a few of my tanks look to be getting ich seems like if it isn't one thing it's another..... Any idea what to dose so it won't bother the coral or inverts.

I found a article last night stating to raise the temp in my tank slowly to 84 and drop salinity to I believe 1.10-1.13 which will help eradicate the problem then slowly raise salinity and lower temps
 
Everywhere I have looked online says the same that they are nitrate traps... Well I pulled our 3 walmart sacks full of bio balls, but I noticed last night after I got back from alabama that a few of my tanks look to be getting ich seems like if it isn't one thing it's another..... Any idea what to dose so it won't bother the coral or inverts.

I found a article last night stating to raise the temp in my tank slowly to 84 and drop salinity to I believe 1.10-1.13 which will help eradicate the problem then slowly raise salinity and lower temps. Here is the link let me know. I don't have a hospital tank and tearing down and starting over isn't much of a option.

http://www.reeftime.com/reef-articl...um-amyloodinium-ocellatum-ich-oodinium/55.htm
 
Ich, as in being on your fish? So you have a QT tank? I keep a tank just to use copper in and that is how I have cured my fish of ich.
 
Your fish won't have a problem with low salinity,but corals would.Raiseing the temp only speeds up the cycle of ich faster.I have ich in my tank,but only see it when a fish is stressed.I use garlic extreme on the fish food when it appears.
 
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