Super cryptocaryon, HELP

NarakuAulonocar

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I have tried hypo, copper and currently quinine sulfate.
NOTHING works.

This all started when I got a blue tang, I will never get another tang ever!

PH 8.2, nitrates 20, s.g. currently 1.008 (confirmed with refractometer)
temp 72 deg. F. The tank is 45 gallon barebottom with one fish a red sea heniochus.

I have read leebca's and the reefkeeping article. Even after 5 weeks in hypo, the trophonts refuse to fall off. You still see spots here and there. The fish is not eating because its gills are infected, no food for months and still alive.

I then started copper (cupramine), initially it seemed better but some trophonts still refuse to fall off. I used seachem's test but it seemed hard to read so I had the store do a test and it was between 0.5 and 1. I stopped adding copper (kept it at the same level) being afraid that it would overdose and since copper suppresses appetite. After 5 weeks, a few spots reappeared in different places although only a few.

Currently on cryptopro and hypo, spots everywhere, worse than before!
I am soo angry. Is it possible I have a super strain of cryptocaryon? Its like a curse or something. :(:furious::mad2::mad:

Should I put the fish out of its misery and dry the tank to start over?
The fish is still swimming but just won't eat, its a little thin. It did eat a little before the cryptopro after I cleared copper but only of I held food on my hand. it spit food out because it seemed like there was ick in his gills irritating him.
 
1. bare tank?
2. if bare tank, get a serious pump and some pillow stuffing polyfill and start a pot filter (pump in a small bucket with floss), and cycle that water through so many times an hour, tossing all floss daily, that a trophont has no way to stay in the tank: continue this and try something like Stress Coat to increase the natural slime coat of the fish, while reattempting hypo. At this point, I swear I'd feed it raw garlic bits and maybe tape a rabbit's foot to the tank.
Fish treated with copper often lose their appetites until the copper taste goes away: the garlic honestly might (might!) help that. This would be very similar to the ONLY method you haven't tried, which is the Transfer Method: ie, that often-changed floss is going to operate much like changing the fish to a new clean tank daily.

And the other question---forgive me, but we don't know each other, and we have no pix---are you sure it's ich and not, for instance, lymphocystis, a viral disease which somewhat resembles ich, but which does not tend to kill, only to be there for a while and then go away?
 
Hi,

Thanks for the response. I'm sorry that I can't get a picture now but I'm sure its not lympho which tends to occur on the edges of fins.
Oh yeah, and I have tried garlic before.


By the way, where do you get the pumps that you are talking about? Do you know how much it will cost?

Thanks
 
I use a Maxijet 1200. They're potent enough to really suck water through floss, but are about 30.00, unlike, say, a Mag 5. They will also deliver quite a bit of aeration, if you can use that feature.
 
When using copper, did you test daily and ensure the concentration was maintained in the therapeutic level for two weeks?
 
The fish passed away this week. :(
I am really upset not just because it took me forever to find this specific RED SEA fish but also the fact that nothing worked. Its soo frustrating when you can't save it no matter how hard you try (a total of 5 treatment type tried). What if my next fish catches the same disease?

I'm on the verge of giving up on the hobby. How can I wash the tank to make sure all the eggs die out. Can parasite eggs live (go dormant) after I dry the tank? I want to make SURE I NEVER have to deal with this strain ever!

Should I wash with vinegar, bleach or hot water?







Yes, I used cupramine test kit daily

When using copper, did you test daily and ensure the concentration was maintained in the therapeutic level for two weeks?






I/m 99% sure, your thread was what actually prompted me to try cryptopro. Did daily water changes as directed on package.

1. Are you sure its Ich?
2. How are you administering the Quinine Sulfate?

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1974075

I had exceptional success! I used 1/8 tsp/10g with a 25% water change daily in a rubbermaid tub....Ich gone in 6 days.

I also used two treatments of 1/4tsp/10g with one 25% water change in my 300g DT...Ich gone.
 

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