Tank upgrade question

Marchillo

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lets say I picked up a new tank tomorrow and set it up next to my old tank. I put in new sand but used some of my live rock that is established plus some live rock from another source that is established. How long would it realistically take to cycle?

Here is my dilemma. I want to buy a used tank that is shutdown. Set it up in my living room and start to cycle it. Wife's baby shower is Aug 28th and if I have two tanks next to each other at that point she'll ring my neck.

Or should I just wait to set it up after. I wouldn't be adding new fish. Just moving my current stock. Also I currently have no corals.

Thoughts / advice is appreciated.
 
IMO, you might get a mini-cycle or nothing at all. How long have you had the sand. Some reefers might recommend washing it and re-using it, others might recommend just using all new sand. I think you will be ok, just have to monitor and have something like Prime on standby.
 
Even if you had a mini-cycle, I would THINK it would be done by August 28th.
Then again, you are taking your life into your own hands!

What are the sizes of the two tanks? My guess is that the smaller the tanks the larger (but also probably faster) your cycle would be.

That's a tough one! Good luck!
 
so i'm sort of going through something similar right now.

we're moving, and as such i'm moving in to a larger tank. i started the new tank almost a week ago with dead rock and new dry sand. i added several sponges from my current tank's sump, a couple small pieces of live rock, and a couple scoops of sand to help seed the biofilter.

i also dosed a bunch of probiotics, and used pure ammonia to bring the ammonia up.

the first day seemed to go well. i dumped a bottle of doctor tim's and a bottle of this smart cycle stuff i got from the LFS. dosed the ammonia, and brought it up to ~2ppm as per the instructions on the bottle. added my sponges from the current system, and waited.

the next day no ammonia detectable, no nitrite, no nitrate either (which was weird). so i dosed back up to around ~1ppm and added some pellet food, a couple pinches, to help give some more nutrients to the system.

ammonia was at 2ppm about 12 hours later, and never really fell. so two days of no movement, i added a couple scoops of sand, a small piece of live rock, and the remainder of a bottle of SeaChem Stability.

two days later, not much movement on the ammonia, i haven't dosed any more ammonia or food since. so i added another sponge, and a small bottle of dr tims.

two days, and the ammonia seems to be going in the right right direction. down to around ~1ppm the last 24 hours, and nitrites finally starting to register.

the only other additions have been daily doses of my home brew phyto. a couple of ounces each morning.

i feel like i could hurry this along if i started moving over a considerable amount of live rock from the existing tanks, but i am reticent to do that for fear of killing off a lot of my pods and other zooplankton during the ensuing cycle.

now the converse example to this is when i moved my 20 long QT system two weeks ago. it's bare bottom, but covered in detritus for various reasons. i did that in one fell swoop, kept the small amount of rock in there wet, but used all new water. i got an ammonia spike with that, but only to about 0.1ppm, and within 18 hours it was gone.

tldr; if you move most of your rock at once, i would except a small cycle. monitor it closely and it shouldn't last any length of time. you have the benefit of being collocated to the new tank as well. however, do things piecemeal, and it could stretch out the length of the cycle.

also, don't believe the hype about bottled bacteria.
 
How about all new sand with 100% established live rock? Or at least 60/40 live/dry. Can a cycle be achieved in 4 weeks?
 
i wouldn't bother with live sand. i would just go dry, and using all your established live rock i would be shocked if the cycle took longer than a few days.
 
i wouldn't bother with live sand. i would just go dry, and using all your established live rock i would be shocked if the cycle took longer than a few days.

+1, use dry sand. You actually risk a cycle if you use "live" sand as it can have enough dead organics in it to start a cycle. All fully cycled rock= no cycle.
 
I have set up an upgrade tank, partially filled it, put in new LR and transferred the old LR over, spread out the new sand, topped the tank off and transferred the live stock over in a day. I did not add anything else for a couple weeks to let things settle down and everyone get use to the new place.
 
Ok new tank is setup. 80 next to my 40. Looks huge next to it.

So now what? I still need lights and phs. The water is around 78 degrees 1.025 salinity with 40 #s live rock 38 pounds of base rock, 40 pounds dry sand and 60 pounds of live sand.

How much of a cycle should I expect. Lfs said I should be good in a week. Should I ghost feed? I didn't test anything else today on it.

Fish are living next door peeking through the glass at their new home.
 
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