the 1700g stingray reef

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I have had 3 pencil urchins in my tank now for about 6 months with no problems. I originally bought them to try and control a hydroid infestation (no luck), but they have turned into a good clean up crew. They have never ventured onto the acrylic only stick to the rock rock. As far as I can tell the have not bothered any other inhabitants and have only had an occassional rock fall, but like was said before, those were usually placed a bit hairy to start with.
 
Well, looks like I will have to renew my subscription to TFH. That is awsome, I had a chance to talk with James, I would have to say he knows his stuff. He spoke at a local club meeting about clams and it was very informative. James has a new book coming out this summer about clams and their captivity.

Energy, I am not suprised that they were there that long. I am suprised that every time I am over you do not have to carry me out screaming like a little kid ;)
 
Energy - CONGRATS BUDDY! i hope they do write about it. if they do you better sign my copy buddy.

hey you gonna be around on the 11th? i might be coming to town with a buddy who has to pick up some stuff from ReefMania. i'll pm you here

Lunchbucket
 
bryopsis is usually due to phosphates (perhaps an extra large GEO phosban reactor is in order), but can also be an indication of a shift in the lighting spectrum. Are your bulbs close to change time? Thats when algae always starts to pop up in my reefs...when its time to change the bulbs. Then, within a week of me putting new bulbs in...it all goes away.
 
I broke down and finally put 500 large mexican turbo snails in the system. Some of these things were the size of golf balls! It's an amazing view at night. It's like another world. The aquarium is canvased with a huge clean-up crew. 300 emeralds, one thousand hermits, one thousand margarita snails and 500 mexican turbos. I'm also doing a lot of storms to keep the detritus in suspension and changing out my ro/di filters more often to keep the phosphate in control. I 'll also be adding more phos-ban to eliminate any free stuff that hasn't bonded to a surface.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6894137#post6894137 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Energy
I broke down and finally put 500 large mexican turbo snails in the system. Some of these things were the size of golf balls! It's an amazing view at night. It's like another world. The aquarium is canvased with a huge clean-up crew. 300 emeralds, one thousand hermits, one thousand margarita snails and 500 mexican turbos. I'm also doing a lot of storms to keep the detritus in suspension and changing out my ro/di filters more often to keep the phosphate in control. I 'll also be adding more phos-ban to eliminate any free stuff that hasn't bonded to a surface.

HOLY CRAP !!!!!

You have 2500+ snails and 300+ crabs :eek2: :eek1:

Did you count them all to make sure you didn't get shorted :p
 
Yeah I started counting last Tuesday and I'm almost finished! The stingray only eats silversides that have been vitamin and garlic soaked. I have more problems with the wrasses and the copperband butterfly picking on the snails than I do the stingray!
 
LOL.....to have that problem....

The CBB and the Wrasses picking on your clean up crew more that your blue spotted stingray....sigh.

Nick
 
Hey Energy!

Stupid Question number 346: How did you hold down your foam rock structures when you installed them? Did you wait and use live rock or did you fasten them to the bottom? As you know that stuff is really boyant but I was thinking that just using rock to hold it down could cause problems later if I need to move or remove a rock!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6903908#post6903908 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
Hey Energy!

Stupid Question number 346: How did you hold down your foam rock structures when you installed them? Did you wait and use live rock or did you fasten them to the bottom? As you know that stuff is really boyant but I was thinking that just using rock to hold it down could cause problems later if I need to move or remove a rock!

If I rem right he just used live rock... It was talked about earlier in the thread, not sure what page :(
 
So then one day I decide to move that rock, and the underlying structure rockets to the surface? That sounds like fun!! :D
 
There is no moving just one rock in this tank, to do so would be two hours of work to remove all coral then, mabye with a crowbar you might get the rock up.
 
Stupid question number 346. Boyance is definately a problem I addressed early on. The entire structure is siliconed to the bottom of the aquarium. It will stay in place without any rock. I did have one island pop up and free float when I was still curing the epoxy in the tank. Drained it, resiliconed and filled away. At that time it was no big deal. Now it would be impossible. Anything decides to free float it will stay that way. BTW I love stupid questions- (There easier to answer!) Carman- actually the entire rock work comes apart fairly easy since most of it sits on PVC shelves. In fact within the last 2 weeks I've taken almost a hundred pounds of live rock out of the main display to "open up" the structure and create better flow behind the reef wall. The shelves are great that way. No rods or dowels to mess with and a little more flexibility on rock movement and stability.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6908776#post6908776 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Energy
The entire structure is siliconed to the bottom of the aquarium.

DOH... Guess my memory is not as good as I was thinking :rolleyes:
 
OK...well there is no way in hell I am going to drain my tank to glue them down!

I need a new plan...I wonder if aquarium epoxy like Deltec AquaScape would work if I applied it to the bottom edges of the crates and weighed them down with rocks until it cured?

Any suggestion??
 
Um...but wait. Silicone will release over time unless you are using glass pipe... Silicone will stick when you first use it, but over time is seperates from plastic...

FWIW, I would just fill the pipes with sand/gravel/aragacrete if I were doing it. Silicone will fail over time.
 
I thought about filling PVC with sand to hold it down, but I would have to attach the PVC to my crates somehow as well. I have thought about just using zip ties, but I am fairly sure that they will break down from UV under the lamps right?
 
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