BonsaiNut
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Well, because this is a college/scientific text book, it is a little pricey. New, it sold for $165. On the used book market, given its rarity, it goes for more than that.
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Well, because this is a college/scientific text book, it is a little pricey. New, it sold for $165. On the used book market, given its rarity, it goes for more than that.
Fishy_Clown
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Yup, have been looking here in the UK for a while now and the cheapest I can get it for is over £100. As I say, you are a lucky man. If we all chip in, I'm sure we can get a kittly going that will make it worth your while :beer:
BonsaiNut
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There is a copy here for $239 that includes free shipping to the US. Otherwise I am not aware of another copy.
heightsreef
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Wonderful find information is power!!! May we never stop accumulating it!!!! Congrats and look forward to reading more of your readings!
Fishy_Clown
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Hi BonsaiNut. Would you say it is worth the money? You have not given too much away yet - how is the read going :reading: ? How much have you learned that you did not already know? Please can you let us know 
BonsaiNut
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Hi BonsaiNut. Would you say it is worth the money? You have not given too much away yet - how is the read going :reading: ? How much have you learned that you did not already know? Please can you let us know
It depends on how crazy you are about anemones. $200 is a lot for a book. However I have seen people spend that much for a single anemone, or dare I say, a single rare SPS frag. Just about every page reveals something new (at least to me). To me it is certainly worth it.
I just finished the section on cnidae - the little capsular organelles that give anemones their stinging and grabbing functions. While people may be familiar with spirocysts (the "grabbing" cnidae) and nematocysts (the "stinging" cnidae), they may not be as familiar with ptychocysts, which are limited to cerianthids only, and which are used to make cerianthid tubes. The section went on to discuss location of cnidae in anemones and the functions they serve - to capture prey, to defend against attack, to help subdue prey that is being digested, to protect an injured area, etc. For example, in many anemones the area most loaded with nematocysts are the acontia filaments - the stringlike threads located at the bottom of the coelenteron (body cavity). These are generally never seen and are only used when an anemone is eating something, or when it is injured or being attacked.
Then I moved onto a section dealing with anemone toxins - and the general roles as neurotoxins (paralyzing), cytolysins (burning or pain-inducing), and anti-proteinases (anti-coagulants). The first and last groups are being researched a lot for human medical use.
Finally, I read a discussion about why there are no such thing as colonial sea anemones - and it went into depth about the evolutionary development of sea anemones away from related colonial creatures like corals and zooanthids.
This took up 12 pages
With referencing terms and re-reading sections, I am able to "digest" about 10 pages a night. It isn't light reading - but I feel like I am finally starting to better understand these origami creatures I more or less finished Section I: Overview of Sea Anemones.
I am now moving into Section II: Nutrition.
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Fishy_Clown
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Thank you - you have more than adequetly answered my questions. Heck, if YOU are learning something new, then it is absolutely worth the money. And yes, I know a few people who have spent much more that $200 on a nem. Please tell me there is a section on reproduction - and whether it covers S.Haddoni and S.Gigantea... ? Thanks again for sharing and bringing us along for the ride
BonsaiNut
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No, it does not break out general environment information for any one particular species - unless it is being used to illustrate a specific concept. The book deals with ALL anemones, and stays at a higher level than discussing species.
I will generally say that both haddonis and giganteas are tropical anemones, though my understanding is the haddoni has the larger range and can go a little cooler than gigantea. The only clown anemones that are found in semi-tropical waters are H. crispa and E. quadricolor. Don't know if this helps...
BonsaiNut
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As far as reproduction for S. gigantea, S. haddoni and S. mertensii go, I am not aware of ANY literature available on reproduction for any of them. I have asked Dr. Fautin, Dr. Scott, Dr. Haeussermann, and Dr. Shick, and none of them are aware of anything specific. So if any of you have some extra cash lying around (couple hundred thousand) and want to underwrite some research into carpet anemone reproduction, I know at least one PhD who would be interested
BonsaiNut
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Section 6 is titled "Reproduction and population structure"
6.1 Synopsis
6.2 Introduction
6.3 Sexual Reproduction
6.4 Asexual Reproduction
6.5 Population Structure
I have not read it yet. I'm hoping for great things
Fishy_Clown
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Section 6 is titled "Reproduction and population structure"
6.1 Synopsis
6.2 Introduction
6.3 Sexual Reproduction
6.4 Asexual Reproduction
6.5 Population Structure
I have not read it yet. I'm hoping for great things
Excellent news, fingers crossed. And trust me, if I did have a few hundred thousand lying around, that would be the first thing I'd spend it on... we can dream........
KindCorals
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Section 6 is titled "Reproduction and population structure"
6.1 Synopsis
6.2 Introduction
6.3 Sexual Reproduction
6.4 Asexual Reproduction
6.5 Population Structure
I have not read it yet. I'm hoping for great things
BUMP for an update with "great things"
10galclowns
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How much is it worth lol.
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