The resurrection the 24 gallon Nano

Carriegiesler

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After much debate and thought I have decided that I have met my match in tank size limit. For several months now I have been questioning why I ever thought going bigger was going to be better. At the time I didn't give much thought to all the additional cost, time, and water change quantities.

You can view my Tech Thread at:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1727822&highlight=tech
or seach 70 gallon Oceanic tank Build if the link provided doesn't work.

After the semi crash about a month ago in which I lost many of my SPS's I have decided a down size is in order. Due to my lack of time to dedicate to appropriate water changes in a timely fashion and poor sump design I brought it on myself. And with one full time job and two part time jobs I don't see any of my time being freed up any time soon. During this time I found myself having more frequent conversations with my husband about possibly getting out because I was so bummed about the loss and my lack of time to care for the tank that he reminded me how much I enjoyed the Nano and how it was easier for me to handle the buckets for water changes on my own. So in due time I will be parting ways with the Tech and returning to the Nano.

A few weeks ago Dan brought the Nano out of storage for me and I started doing my homework on RC and other sites on how create a setup that would mimic my tech but with a better sump design. Instead of running it as an AIO, I decided to have it drilled.

From all the feedback on the forum I contacted Tom and discussed my plans with him and her came over and drilled it for a 1" drain and ¾" return and he made me a really awesome overflow box as well. Thanks Tom (runningnreefing)

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Sump: I picked up a 15 gallon 24"x 12"x12" sump from a LFS. The sump will sit perpendicular to the tank in the sump. It will stick out about 6 inched in the back of the stand. I built a little sturdy platform with reinforced metal L brackets on the leg then stained it to match the stand. To test it Dan stood on it and it held so I think it will hold the content of a sump. I can access the front through the glass door this will be the refugium end with the light.
I had found a plan for a sump off of Meleve's page or was it a design someone built using one of his designs. I saved a copy of the photo in my desktop file from last year so I resized it to fit the dimensions of my sump tank. The design made scene in the flow pattern to allow for ample room for a filter sock, skimmer, refugium and return. Lesson learned from old setup is not to put sand in the sump, to include a filter sock mount (I built this one out of plexi).
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Aquascaping: Because I will be losing a lot of real estate ground when compared to my Tech I decided to utilized the Foam wall method. I pulled about 15lbs (total) of LR pieces from the sump and a few from the display and dried them for a few day them sprayed them with the power washer. Doing this outside in the snow was not fun. I used about 85-90% dried rock then filled the cracks with Beckett Foam Sealant. After letting that cure for 3 days I then sealed it with Bob Smith Finish Cure sprinkling it with dry sand "¦"¦anyways you get the point the whole process and steps can be found in the DIY forum under Pond Foam wall.
To adhere this to the back of the tank I order 8 epoxy coat earth magnets that each pull 15lbs and embedded them in the foam when I was constructing the piece. I figured this would make it a thousand times easier than the standard epoxy it to the back wall to remove if there be a problem or I later change my mind about the aquascaping.

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The big void is where my Mp 20 will go to provide more water movment in the tank.

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The blue tape shows the magnet placment

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Profile shot

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Adding Bob Smith 20min Finishing Cure the sand.

I plan to add another 20-30 lbs of live rock that I will pull from the Tech to the nano display once the cycle gets started and another 15-20 in the sump.

Lighting: I have on order and Aqua illumination Sol Blue for the lighting as the MH I run on it before I have since sold and always ran the temp up. I've read tons of reviews on their PAR and feedback and they seem very promising. Expecting it to ship from PA after the New Year. But no hurry as I have to let the nano tank cycle and then comes the breakdown and transfer of the Tech

Skimmer: After the initial operator error with my new Precision Marine 100 Redline skimmer I am very happy with it skimming ability. It is currently set up on the Tech and it a skimming beast. I would go as far to say it is doing as good of a job as my Octopus 150 does just with a much smaller footprint.

So that all for now folks.....have a Merry Christmahanaquanzika and New Year!
 
Man my back hurts and I am tired but on a positive note...the 70 Tech is completly broken down, corals and Live stock are in the holding tub and the nano is 2 gallons away from being completly full. Time for photos

Plumbing:

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The poles are my start of a light tree for the Aquaillumination that I am still waiting to ship.

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The poles are not really crocked they were not fixed in the counter slot-problem fixed

Will get some shots of aqua scaping when water is cleared up.
 
Are you adding rocks to the sandbed or are you leaving it the way it is with just the rocks on the backwall.

Very nice and clean setup though.
 
I'm somewhat in the same boat. I love my 90g but it's sure a lot of work. I'm thinking about breaking it down into 2 nanos....

Love the set up so far.
 
Adding LR pieces to the sand bed. I have about 15 lbs in the display and about 25 in the sump area.

There were only a few really big pieces from the Tech break down that I wasn't able to utilize in the nano build.
 
With the blessing of a snow day figured I would use the time to take update pics of tank
Switched some things around:

Old Aquascaping
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AI on moonlite cycle
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New Aquascaping: FTS
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Right side on AI moon cycle
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Left Side:
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Old hanging solution to AI (I thought it looked like a bug)
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New simplified:

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Lighting: Aquaillumination Sol
So far the lighting is great. I have noticed some growth in the SPS already and all corals have colore up very nicely.
I have gradually increased the percentage for 25% W to 45% W over the course of the last few weeks. Increased the B/RB from 30% to 55%

Schedule for lighting:
T1: 9am W4% B---- RB--- No moon Ramp of 60min
T2: 1pm W35% B43% RB 45% No moon Ramp of 80min
T3: 4pm W40% B55% RB 50% No moon Ramp of 90min
T4: 8pm W15% B8% RB8% No moon Ramp down of 100min
T5: 11:00pm W2% B3% RB3% No moon Ramp down 5min
T6: 11:15pm Moon Cycle Same percentages listed for 11pm.
 
One of my Cleaner shrimp is holding eggs
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if you don't mind me asking how much was that black snowflake clown . Nice tank by the way
 
The pair today
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Thank you.

The Black and White I have had for a while. I picked her up at a LFS in Chicago for $65. This was shortly after ORA started this breeding line so the price has gone done considerably. I have seen them selling now for about $35 at the LFS.

My male: Black Ice Semi-Snowflake I picked him up at the local CMAS swap last spring for $75-$80.
This is what he looked like when I first got him. 8 months ago. He has colored up very well
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Sometimes other people breeding this coloration of clown call them smores.
 
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Well I relieve I haven't updated in a while so I figured I would document the changes that have occured.
-reaquascaped, got rid of the massive rock in the front. Made two arches that prop into the back wall.
-Removed about 10 lbs of LR from sump to allow more room for the cheto to tumble and grow.
-Added a few more acans, SPS frags and mushrooms
-Added a Green Bubble Tip Anemone

Sorry about the dirty glass and crappy photos. Waiting on my nibble to ship and well the camera I blame the operator (me) for not knowing how to use it and get the white balance right.

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Fote03 sorry about the late response it is a Mp20.

Updates: Placed an order for a Clam for Pacific East along with a peppermint shrimp, scarlet crab, and a monti frag. I got the package this morning.

Excellent packaging and great PR. I opened the box and everything was triple bagged and insulated very well.

The thing that floored me the most was the size of the clam. It was HUGE! I was very impressed with the size for the price I paid. The colors are beautiful.

I had to do some reaquascaping to make room.
Took some pic but again still cant get the color right.

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how is your water movement with the mp20 place in the back? I have a mp10 on my 20 gallon high and i do get great movement but i think the flow might be hitting some of my sps to hard and I just saw your mp20 there and was thinking of doing the same because I have an open space in that same location but am out of town so I cant just try it out and wont be back home for a few days
 
I have the Mp 20 only turn up about 70-75% on reef crest. On that side of the tank I do have a stronger flow in the upper portion. Toward the bottom I get a med. to low flow that my Acans and lower flow SPS seem to love. I had to carfully position the left side arch so that the SPS on that side did not get blasted with to much flow, that why most are directionally pointed toward the center of the tank. So far, everything seems to be doing well. The crest seems to deflect off the front glass, providing a medium flow for the center area of the tank. I have only noticed a little red algea on the lower portion of the rock wall for about a week. However, I don't think that was a result of flow but an excess of nutrients, as the algea is gone and I have not changed anything with the Vortech.

If you do chose to mount it on the back, just as with as on the side; make sure you provide enought water space from the top so that when the controller hit peak crest the water does not splash out. I can not turn mine up 100% if I wanted to or I would have a wet floor.

If your tank is longer than tall I would probably still mount it on the side as I think you would not be utilizing the range of flow that the Vortechs are famous for. If you have the opprotunity to try it out I say go for it if you dont like it/corals dont like it then change it back .

When building this nano I tried it out in the nano before building the wall to see if I wanted to make the rock wall curve around the side for a side mount but I found with the MP20 (recycled from larger setup) it was not neccessary. However had I utilized a MP10 it might have been a diffrent story.
Hope that helps
Carrie
 
the tank looks great. what did u use for hanging ur light?

sorry I just noticed I never answered your question. I used smooth steel conduit (I think thats what my husband called it) It was found in the electrial department at the big box stores.
I then spray painted it black.
 
sorry for the necro thread, but could you please post more detailed pictures of your AI mount connections around the unit?

I am doing something similar but am having troubles deciding on hanging the unit or hard mount with adjustable pole.
 
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