Tip recession and Fe(rust)

[tacocat]

Re: Tip recession and Fe(rust)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9651274#post9651274 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 7thheaven
I searched many articles in here, and found out that the Fe and
rust can make this situation.

True, I had a VHO bulb mounted close to an overflow. Rust from that screw eventually dripped into my overflow. I've since switched to using only stainless steel screws in my tank.

This may not be your issue though, and rust isn't the only thing that causes that kind of tissue necrosis.

 

[Horace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9652848#post9652848 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Kolognekoral
Dave,

the zeo products apparently alter the toxicity levels, which is why I haven't really tried it out. I run a DSB and it is not compatable with zeo, either. I wish they were not so secretive about the entire affair. Of course, maybe they really aren't sure what is happening, only the parameters that work.

Not sure where you read that DSBs are not compatible with Zeo because they are just fine man. I use zeo and I have a shallow sand bed, no probs at all. There are many out there that have DSBs with Zeovit.

Anyway, I have to agree, I think you should back off on the zeovit man until you figure out whats going on. When using zeo, if something is out of whack your going to lose your whole tank. When Jeff's tank started going downhill, it just slowly withered away to nothing . He is just now finally getting things back going again but he is still having some issues with montis.

So cut your dosing WAY back, and cut out the dosing of all the extras (other than the basic 4). Also make sure your flow through the reactor is not too high. You should be running about the same GPH as your tank size if I remember correctly. I run ~75gph through mine and I have a 75g net system.

 

[pk1]

I just went through this, I bet your magnesium is high. I accidently overdosed MG, upwards of 1600, and this exact thing happened. Here is a link to a thread I posted over in Eric Bornemans forum, he seemed to agree.

http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic64162-9-1.aspx

 

[7thheaven]

Thanks All~

From 6 month, I try to figure out my problem and do many things
and I communicate with Bob and Alexander in Zeovit forum until now.

Here is my try..
1. raise the KH from 7 to 8~9 --> Not working
2. stop dosing zeo bak,food,start2 --> Not working
3. My TMP salt is OK I think, Because I did big water change (60%) in this salt and result is very satisfied during 1.5month
Damaged SPS tips started to recover and change the beautiful
color but Just 1.5month..That's it!!! so That is why I think something harmful thing is supported secretly...
4. I do not use K-balance anymore and I do not even try B-balance. I use zeocit item just PCV,PCS,AA and basic4

I wanna hear your opinion about polyfilter. because I do not have any information about this~!!!

 

[7thheaven]

Re: Re: Tip recession and Fe(rust)

Re: Re: Tip recession and Fe(rust)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9653212#post9653212 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tacocat
True, I had a VHO bulb mounted close to an overflow. Rust from that screw eventually dripped into my overflow. I've since switched to using only stainless steel screws in my tank.

This may not be your issue though, and rust isn't the only thing that causes that kind of tissue necrosis.

Thanks~

In front of overflow, There is cross fan for cooling and there are
rust here and there. Its wind goes to my main tank water.
How about this? It can be one of problem?

 

[7thheaven]

And Now Zeovit forum is not working...

 

[tacocat]

Re: Re: Re: Tip recession and Fe(rust)

Re: Re: Re: Tip recession and Fe(rust)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9656016#post9656016 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 7thheaven
Thanks~

In front of overflow, There is cross fan for cooling and there are
rust here and there. Its wind goes to my main tank water.
How about this? It can be one of problem?

Could be, but I doubt it. I actually saw a thin drip trail of rust that seeped back into the overflow, so I know it made it's way into the tank. Once I eliminated that situation, the acros recovered within a week and started growing back over the tips.

 

[rutz81]

I'm having a similar problem, but, for me it also comes and goes. I am now running the UltraLith system(similar to Zeovit), but, I was having the same problems before. I found out that my Alk was at like 13 for a while, I have slowly dropped it down to about 8-9, but, it has ponly been a week. So, too early to tell.

I'll defintely be following this thread....

 

[rutz81]

7thheaven: How long are your lights on for? I've been wondering if my photoperiod is too long which might be the cause. I run my VHO's from 9am-8pm, 2 x 175W Iwasaki 15K's from 9:30am to 7pm, and 4 x 55W PC's the same time as my VHO's. ANyone think this might be the cause??

 

[7thheaven]

I used Tek T5 until March, and Now I am using ATI power module.

but I think it is not related .. Photoperiod is 8 hours

 

[rutz81]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9656523#post9656523 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 7thheaven
I used Tek T5 until March, and Now I am using ATI power module.

but I think it is not related .. Photoperiod is 8 hours

Was just a guess; hopefully having my Alk lower now will stop this from happening. For me, it only happens to a few corals in my tank, and then seems to stop and re-grow, sometimes it never gets better and I lose the coral, usually not. Even more odd, it's usually the same corals that it will happen to again later. I'm thinking maybe my higher Alk effected certain corals more than others.

 

[PrangeWay]

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4335&N=2004+113810

Polyfilters are really neat, they pull out all sortos of stuff and change color so you know what it is pulling out.

http://www.poly-bio-marine.com/labtesting3b.htm

Might give it a try just to see if you have a metals problem.


PW

 

[7thheaven]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9657352#post9657352 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PrangeWay
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=4335&N=2004+113810

Polyfilters are really neat, they pull out all sortos of stuff and change color so you know what it is pulling out.

http://www.poly-bio-marine.com/labtesting3b.htm

Might give it a try just to see if you have a metals problem.


PW

Thanks.

I read the url and it can absorbed the PO4. Abrupt many PO4 removal can be harm to SPS I heard... Is it OK to use?

How many should I need it in my 100gal?

 

[rutz81]

I'd be a little hesitant to use them on our type of systems. I'm ot really sure if they were designed with Zeo type systems in mind. They may not do anything, but, they might also take something out that we need. I could be completely wrong, though; and someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[7thheaven]

I think something in my Tank is kindda metalic one, It can be work. but I am not sure either, I can contact zeovit expert like Aged salt, but zeovit forum is not working...

I am not sure why..

 

[rutz81]

There are a good number of Zeo/UltraLith Users on these forums, hopefully they find this thread.

 

[BLKTANG]

I am a ZEOuser,& that looks like an overdose of Spurr2,what is your current dosing scedule,& ammounts.Also what is your K @.

 

[7thheaven]

1liter media with reactor and 100gph pump
1cup zeovit carbon and change the every month
4drop bak 2times in a week
2drop food7 2times in a week
2x 0.3ml daily new zeostart2
1.5ml PCS, 6drops PCV daily
2 drops AA 2times in a week
Not any more K-balance
NO spur2, B-B...

My K-level is about 300 but I think it is not related to K level because I incease slowly the level up to 380 but Not working
Still SPS dying..

 

[BLKTANG]

How often,& how many times r u pumping your ZEO reactor daily?

How long have u been running ZEO?

Im going on 5 months.

I run 200gph through reactor,set on a timer,& im pumping 2x daily 30x.

 

[7thheaven]

I do 2 x daily 10x
I am running about 2 years