Tips for treating with cupramine?

ConnorG

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Any tips for treating ick with seachem a cupramine copper will be very much appreciated.

For example what do I do if I do a water change. Do I add it till it reaches .5 again?
 
Treat with a concentration of .35-.4. Easier on the fish and still very effective. Slowly increase the concentration over a few days to reach .35-.4. Then keep it there for 4 weeks. If you do a water change, then add cupramine to the water change water until it is at the desired concentration then add to tank.
 
Treat with a concentration of .35-.4. Easier on the fish and still very effective. Slowly increase the concentration over a few days to reach .35-.4. Then keep it there for 4 weeks. If you do a water change, then add cupramine to the water change water until it is at the desired concentration then add to tank.
Good info. The directions on the Cupramine bottle suggest too much copper, too quickly. SeaChem tech support agrees with the lower dosage and slower raising of the Cu level. Also, fish should be eating before adding copper, unless its an emergency. If they stop eating, its the first sigh on Cu intolerance.
 
In water change water do I want the levels to match that if the tank water? Also is there a certain temp that it is most effective at? Thanks for the info! And if I add a drop should I wait to test again or can I test right away? Sorry for all the question I just don't want anything to happen and lose something that could've been prevented :( I'd an air stone beneficial? Thanks gain everyone!
 
Also what is the BEST test kit? I have heard 3 different answers, Red Sea, seachem, and Salifert. I am hesitant about the seachem cuz it looks like there are a lot of areas to mess up or make a mistake? Is Red Sea ok? What do you guys use?
 
I was reading about the cupramine product and it states that cupramine specifically doesn't precipitate out if the water so them what is the need if redosing? Also after they begin to eat what should the levels be on the first day. It how much should I increase it daily? Until I reach 3.5-4?
 
If this is a small tank, and you know the volume pretty exactly, I like using the drops per gallon method with cupramine, since I am forever unable to see the color on the test kits at the low levels I use it...

Day 1: 1 drop per gallon.

Day 3: 1 drop per gallon.

Day 5: 1 drop per gallon (half that if sensitive fish like butterflies). Then I just wait.

I write everything in sharpie on the tank, so I know how many total drops are in there. When I do water changes, I replace the total drops from the volume I change out. Example: If I change 10 gallons, I will add 30 drops to the new water (25 drops if butterflies)... hope that makes sense...

I always keep full strength salinity in my QT. I run the temperature at 80F.

This method has worked very well for me with butterflies. I killed a few at first, following the directions on the bottle :o
 
Thanks SOO much! So on days 1,3,5 and so on I just totally reside the tank? Every other day for the 4 weeks?
 
Thanks SOO much! So on days 1,3,5 and so on I just totally reside the tank? Every other day for the 4 weeks?

I'm not sure I understand your question? There is no "and so on" after day 5... you don't add any more curpramine after that, unless you do a water change.
 
So on day 1,3,5 I add 10 drops each day? Also time is of the esense so I needed a test kit fast so I picked up a salifert. Hope it ok! I introduced te clowns to the qt and they have been hanging at the bottom with eachother. I feel guilty but Ik it's the right thing that will make them better:)
 
Yup, you got it.

Make sure the QT has a biological filter of some kind (I really like AquaClean hangon filters), and a heater. Maybe somethign for them to hid in/around, like some PVC.
 
So today I dosed for the first time 10 drops for a 10 gal qt I then tested and it disnt show up on the test. Did I do it right?
 
Also time is of the esense so I needed a test kit fast so I picked up a salifert. Hope it ok!
I would try and hunt down a seachem test kit. You, and I, would both think copper is just copper, but the seachem test kit will read seachem's copper much more accurately. I don't know why, and I can't explain it, but it just works that way.

Make sure the QT has a biological filter of some kind (I really like AquaClean hangon filters),
Agree with this, but as a reminder, make sure to remove any carbon from your filters. Carbon will absorb all the copper in your system and lead to poor results.
 
Would I be able to put my lemonpeal mimic tang in a 24 gallon Cardiff bullet for treatment? Along with a tailspot blenny, royal grama, and a lyretail anthias for the course of treatment? I would be treating with cupramine as well.
 
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