Tips on X10

OzarksReef

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I have an AC Jr. and am using X10 modules. They don't seem to be reliable at all. For example, I have plugged in a lamp to test a module and have found that if I turn the module off in manual mode and then turn the lamp on/off using its switch, the module clicks on and powers it up. I have also found the module supplying power to my heater will not turn off - even though the controller shows it is off.

Does anyone have tips for using X10 modules - or are they just not dependable enough to power our equipment?
 
X10 can be a challenge and sometime common household items can wreak havoc with them (a great reason to upgrade to DCx devices). That said all may not be lost; some devices the Lamp Modules don't play well with them, you might want to try the appliance module instead for the heater; it might solve that issue.
 
The issue you're seeing with the lamp is a feature of many X10 modules. It's called "local control". The goal was to let you turn the lamp on via its own switch, without having to send an X10 command. Unfortunately this feature can also cause real problems by turning devices on when they shouldn't be. The most common scenario is that a device such as a fluorescent light will be turned back on almost immediately after being turned off.

As Ken said, this issue can be avoided by using appliance modules. I generally use appliance modules for any device that isn't dimmable - there's a clicking sound when the module is turned on or off, and it can be either barely noticeable or quite loud depending on the appliance module.

Another frequent problem with X10 devices is related to how houses are wired. Your house has two power legs, and X10 signals often can't make it from one to the other. If you find that your X10 modules work better on outlets controlled by either even or odd numbered breakers, or when your electric dryer or stove is running, this may be your issue. The easiest way to fix it is with a phase coupler - a device which plugs into a 220v socket such as the one used by your dryer.

There are also some devices which are "noisy" - they drown out the X10 signal so that it can't be recognized. I've personally never encountered this situation, but there are filters you can buy to isolate the device.

smarthome.com and others have information on how to troubleshoot X10.

Having said all of this... I find X10 to be very reliable in my house. I would avoid using it for critical functions in favor of a DC4/8 module, though. Only non-critical tank functions such as moonlights are controlled by X10 in my setup.
 
I've been using X10's on my system for years. However, the only reason I still use them is that I had them already and don't have the extra $$ at the moment to upgrade to the DCx modules (which I will do when the cash is available).

That being said....I haven't had any problems for years using them. I do use the Appliance modules on things like my halide and VHO lights. The only thing I use the Lamp module for is my moonlights.

I have also performed surgery on some of the modules to remove the 'local mode'. The process is described on www.netptunesys.com support pages. There's a hardware FAQ that shows how. Pretty simple....just cut a jumper.
 
I appreciate the feedback. I am only using appliance modules on my system - the lamp has only been used for testing the modules to see if they're turning on and off properly. One of my modules has been modified - with the local mode jumper cut. I have my refugium light (power compact) plugged into it. While it seems to be turning off and on properly, it flashes when the power is off - like there's stray voltage pulsing through it. Any suggestions on this?

Again - thanks for the feedback.
 
It could be a bad module; have you tried replacing the module to see if the issues persists?
 
I had a similar problem with my moon lights. They were pulsing on/off the way you described. As mentioned above, I'm using the Lamp module for moon lights. I ended up replacing the lamp module with a new one and the problem went away.

Oh...I also spelled the neptune website wrong in my other post (duh!). Sorry neptune guys.
 
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