i have a 39g with a coralife 150w halide and 2 65w compact fixture.i got a green tod about 4 days ago and the polyps wont fully open.i have it plced in the corner of my tank.i only have 2 powerheads.water checks out fine.i have zoos an anem mushrooms and a brain that seems to be fine any suggestions.polyps come out but only about 1-2 millimeters
toadstool polyps not fully opening
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I got a toadstool last week and yesterday it started to look like the base is rotting away. This morning the rot is about a quarter of the way thru the base. I've moved it to a higher flow area and was going to treat it with Marcyn, quarter tablet daily next to the effected area. I got this idea from my LFS when then happened to my devils hand (also insufficient flow). Think this should work on the toad stool too? Is it possible this is happening due to stress since it is new and not due to insuffient flow? Thanks!
I seriously doubt rotting on the base is flow related.
From my experience with rotting at the base ( meaning if you rub it with your finger it falls apart ), it will more than likely take out the whole coral unless fragged. If it's 3/4 already , it's probably far enough along that trying to treat it is too late. Best thing to do is try to frag of several pieces that still have the nice rubbery texture and hope for the best.
From my experience with rotting at the base ( meaning if you rub it with your finger it falls apart ), it will more than likely take out the whole coral unless fragged. If it's 3/4 already , it's probably far enough along that trying to treat it is too late. Best thing to do is try to frag of several pieces that still have the nice rubbery texture and hope for the best.
No clue to the root cause but I seriously doubt you can pinpoint to a single factor. I would lean more towards an infection of some type.
In the 11 years or so in the hobby it has only happened a couple of times. Once was a total loss the other I was able to save a small frag from healthy tissue.
I'm sure it's just going to get progressively worse....
In the 11 years or so in the hobby it has only happened a couple of times. Once was a total loss the other I was able to save a small frag from healthy tissue.
I'm sure it's just going to get progressively worse....
tinyreef
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agreed with david, your best bet is to cut out as much of the diseased/rot/fungus-whatever tissue to save the healthy. do not skimp when you're cutting out, sacrifice some of the healthy tissue in the process. for this type of cutting, an exacto knife or razor is very effective.
i'd do the procedure in another container (preferably filled with the same tank water to limit shock). then closely examine the area, first scraping away the infected parts and then cutting into any discolored areas, and then finally a little further in to make sure you've removed all infected tissue.
a picture of what you're dealing with is also helpful to us to help you.
usually, after such a procedure i like to dose a little lugol's or kent's tech I. but that's just my pers pref. i use them more as an antiseptic in this instance than a coral growth additive or similar. hth
i'd do the procedure in another container (preferably filled with the same tank water to limit shock). then closely examine the area, first scraping away the infected parts and then cutting into any discolored areas, and then finally a little further in to make sure you've removed all infected tissue.
a picture of what you're dealing with is also helpful to us to help you.
usually, after such a procedure i like to dose a little lugol's or kent's tech I. but that's just my pers pref. i use them more as an antiseptic in this instance than a coral growth additive or similar. hth
Well, scratch that last update. The rotting progressed quite a bit last night. I don't think the Marcyn will stop it on this one. The entire top is healthy yet and some of the polyps are extending at night. Would I be able to just lop off the infected base and attach it to a piece of rubble with some netting? I do this for fragging mushrooms and they attach on the rock quickly. Will the toadstool react about the same way?
tinyreef
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bc,
yes, you can lop off the top. i wouldn't bother with the base if it's rotting/infected. i recently had a similar instance of internal rot (parasite).
i removed the parasite/coralivore and then lopped it above the cavity it carved out and the toadie (s. regulare, i think) and it reattached within a week (ymmv). i had the cut piece in moderate intermittent flow plus lugol's iodine dosing (pers pref). i just tossed the base to prevent possible reinfection/parasite babies. wasn't worth it to me to salvage a small piece of LR or any scrap of coral tissue, better safe than sorry imo.
i just wouldn't do the procedure in the tank, separate container with tank's water. you want to try and remove everything and then put the cut top back in. toss the base and water imo.
doing it outside lets you have a better look too. i didn't see the parasite on mine until i got a much closer look. it looked like a wormy piece of bloody snot (i kid you not). blech! :eek1:
hth
yes, you can lop off the top. i wouldn't bother with the base if it's rotting/infected. i recently had a similar instance of internal rot (parasite).
i removed the parasite/coralivore and then lopped it above the cavity it carved out and the toadie (s. regulare, i think) and it reattached within a week (ymmv). i had the cut piece in moderate intermittent flow plus lugol's iodine dosing (pers pref). i just tossed the base to prevent possible reinfection/parasite babies. wasn't worth it to me to salvage a small piece of LR or any scrap of coral tissue, better safe than sorry imo.
i just wouldn't do the procedure in the tank, separate container with tank's water. you want to try and remove everything and then put the cut top back in. toss the base and water imo.
doing it outside lets you have a better look too. i didn't see the parasite on mine until i got a much closer look. it looked like a wormy piece of bloody snot (i kid you not). blech! :eek1:
hth
More fun, My cauliflower colt coral is rotting out at the base too. It rock base it came on was cracked in half and it must have torn and gotten infected. I did the same procedure with it as well, cut the infected base off and loosely held it to a single good piece of rubble with netting. I'm putting a quarter piece of Marcyn next to each one daily to try and head off any re-infections.
