Too many inverts for my 30g? Opinions?

[30g]

Hi. I just got an established 30g with 40lbs of live rock and a platinum clownfish. Previous owner took the other fish, clams and hermit crabs. I set the tank up and went to the LFS a week later. Within 90 miles of me is only a chain store with a small selection. Some safe newbie fish is fine and I added 9 of them which are all doing well so far. I bought ten dwarf hermit crabs, 3 nassarius and three turbo snails. I didn't do more because of their prices and I was still researching.
I'm thinking about added the following and want your opinions=
10 more nassarius, 8 mexican turbos, 5 ceriths, a lettuce sea slug, a fighting conch, 12 dwarf blue leg hermits, 2 scarlet reef hermit crabs, 3 peppermint shrimp, 1 emerald crab. Thanks for your help. :reading:

 

[acabgd]

10 fish in a 30g is pushing it a little. It depwnds of course what fish.

 

[Teenreefer15]

a rule of thumb is one inch of fish per 10 gallons

 

[30g]

all of the fish are small and stay on the smaller side...much smaller than the clownfish will be. I need opinions on the clean up crew please

 

[30g]

nevermind but thanks anyway...too many different opinions. I am going with my OP and will see what happens. I know that lots of people have all of the different things I listed in numerable combinations. I have a protein skimmer and will hopefully feed enough to keep all happy while maintaining proper levels. If a few die from attrition, well, that's nature plus me learning. When I started with tarantulas I came across this same syndrome of opinions and ended up learning tons. Now I have 9 species of them and know more than enough. Yes I realize this hobby has a lot more to it.

 

[maddmaxx]

a rule of thumb is one inch of fish per 10 gallons

that theory is no longer used in this hobby....

say you have a 125g 6 foot long tank. and your looking at a 3" naso tank. your like ok i have 69" of tank left for more fish....this is where this theory is wrong, cause that naso tank should go in tanks at least 8 feet long for best long term survival.. i have a 220g and i stay away from naso tangs and blue hippos tangs. my tank is simply to small for them...

and to answer the original OP. if your tank is producing enough waste for the entire clean up crew, then your ok, but if your not producing enough waste, you will see some casualties. everything will even out on its own...

 

[toothybugs]

You have twice as much livestock in that 30 as I have in my 40 and sump combined.

 

[fishhuman]

Hi. I just got an established 30g with 40lbs of live rock and a platinum clownfish. Previous owner took the other fish, clams and hermit crabs. I set the tank up and went to the LFS a week later. Within 90 miles of me is only a chain store with a small selection. Some safe newbie fish is fine and I added 9 of them which are all doing well so far. I bought ten dwarf hermit crabs, 3 nassarius and three turbo snails. I didn't do more because of their prices and I was still researching.
I'm thinking about added the following and want your opinions=
10 more nassarius, 8 mexican turbos, 5 ceriths, a lettuce sea slug, a fighting conch, 12 dwarf blue leg hermits, 2 scarlet reef hermit crabs, 3 peppermint shrimp, 1 emerald crab. Thanks for your help. :reading:

The lettuce slug is not a beginner creature and needs strong lights like halides to survive, everything else will be fine. Also 9 fish in 30 gallons is way to much, they may be small now but they will grow. Could you please tell us what kind of fish you have, not just for tank size purposes but also because they may eat your invertibrates.

 

[whiteshark]

It would be nice to know what kind of fish they are. 9 clown gobies or neon gobies wouldn't really be too much in a 30.

 

[W1ngz]

I'd say get the one pep shrimp and emerald, but the rest of it seems like too much.

 

[Coelli]

I have about 10 blue-leg hermits, 3 nassarius snails, 3 astrae snails, 3 trochus snails, a margarita snail, a couple of stomatellas, and an emerald crab. They keep my 29g pretty clean and it already seems crowded. If you add as much CUC as you're considering, you'll have to feed them which defeats the purpose.

 

[30g]

I have a total of seven fish, sorry. platinum clownfish, firefish goby, 3 blue chromis, purple pseudochromis, neon velvet damsel. Thanks. Yea I probably have too much...I guess some of them will die off if I do...oops

 

[whiteshark]

That kind of cavalier/indifferent attitude towards the well being of your livestock won't win you any friends around here so just be prepared for that.

The damsel will get super aggressive. The clown might hold it's own, but the firefish will likely be killed. The chromis will probably fight until only one is left, and that one that is left will probably be killed by the damsel. I'd rehome 2 chromis and the damsel personally, then watch closely for aggression from the remaining fish towards the firefish. From the sounds of it you don't really care though, so maybe this is wasted effort on my part.

 

[30g]

You are being too high and mighty and judgemental. You don't know me and I do care. What do you want me to do with too much cuc, buy a second tank? Keep your sentencing of crimes in perspective. I'm very intelligent and won't need this forum for years to figure out a small reef system. I went thru the same thing on guitar forums and tarantula forums. After a few months of questions I was able to handle the rest on my own. After all you reefers didn't have the internet not so many years ago. I bet there are people who have been on here for over 5 years that will do a much worse job than me due to the differences in proper upkeep, attitude, research, testing, etc. Just by being on here a few hours I have already seen vastly overcrowded systems and laziness, etc. I'm not worried about your guys' assumptions.

 

[whiteshark]

I never said a word about you CUC. I took this phrase : "Yea I probably have too much...I guess some of them will die off if I do...oops" to mean that you don't care if a few fish die off because you put too many in the tank. If that's a misinterpretation then my apologies. If not, then I stand by what I said as it does show you don't care. You'd sooner let them die than do something about it.

However, I did misjudge the general sentiment of the thread a bit and owe you a bit of an apology. So sorry for that. Understand that I've seen that before, people coming in here with little experience and thinking they know more than anyone else. It doesn't give me the right to snap and jump to conclusions about you so again I apologize for that.

All that said, my post about your fish is still valid. You can always find another reefer that will take the fish or extra CUC off your hands, or you could take them back to an LFS. I understand it might be a long drive, but it would be better ultimately for the inhabitants. I wouldn't bring them back to a chain though. They would likely kill them faster than they would kill each other...

 

[toothybugs]

-- axed. never mind. --