Torn center brace: 46g Bowfront

Æonic

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Anyone have this problem before? I really have no idea how it happened, I just saw it last night. It's not like I abused the tank, and it's under a year old. I did have the "small" cpr refugium hanging on the back for awhile, but it's been gone for a month, and you'd think I would have noticed this earlier.

On the part where that side of the brace meets the edge, there's kind of a crack near the corner, like the plastic is actually brittle. Seems like it might be UV damage? But I run single ended mogul halides and actinic PC lights, and if I have a problem, lots of other people should too...

I'm really looking for someone to say, hey, those AGA bowfronts do that, or it's because you did _____, as I'd like to avoid this happening again when I replace the tank. Anyone run their bowfront without a brace? It never seemed to be highly stressed. (Sure as hell isn't now, lol)...

Thanks in advance for any info!
 
There seem to be actually quite alot of center braces failing lately.

I would tend to believe that the two halides were the main culprit. Due to it being a fairly short tank lengthwise & using moguls without any other protection (glass) likely caused the problem.

Whether it's heat + salt or uv I couldn't even begin to speculate. You certainly need a center brace but you could either switch to t-5's or try fans below the lights. it's a good time to go bigger if you have the room.

BTW, That tank could easily fail now. I would add a wood type clamp over the top for piece of mind till you can get a replacement. Just my 2 cents.
 
Thanks, yeah last night I bought and installed a long plastic bar clamp and it at least made me feel better about it until I get it fixed. The total bowing was under a centimeter, so it wasn't too bad, but more than I like anyway.

The other factor here may be that I have the parallel PFO reflector which means a lot of light ends up on the center brace (I imagine if I had two seperate reflectors I'd have less light in the middle). The bulbs are 8-12 inches from the tear. The plastic got pretty warm, but not uncomfortable to touch, and nowhere near warm enough to become soft, even at the middle of the brace which was more directly under the light.

I'm leaning toward installing a new top trim (with brace), but considering a custom cut glass replacement brace (and cutting out the old one). If I install new plastic, I think I'm going to paint the inner parts with white plasti-kote to keep them cooler and more protected. Maybe bounce a bit of the light back into the water too :)
 
You may want to switch to two smaller reflectors. Probably get better depth out of the bulbs as well. Otherwise I'd also look into installing a couple of fans between the tank & fixture. That should help keep that brace cooler. If you replace the top trim, it's probably a good idea to go with a glass or acrylic center brace with nylon fasteners.
 
Yeah, I have an idea about the reflectors but it's going to have to wait I think. I cool my tank with fans and so there's a lot of ventillation going on under there.

That's evil putting ideas in my head like the acrylic replacement of the center brace :) I was actually thinking about that. I don't think there's much risk in it especially considering how flimsy the stock trim/brace is.
 
Seen quite a few people add those acrylic braces. Home Depot carries the nylon nuts & bolts. Most I've seen cut the acrylic to closely match then remove all but the last 2" of brace. Just drill four to six holes & your done.
 
Update. Turns out this is (I'm pretty sure now) a Perfecto tank, not AGA. Not like it matters much other than me getting the right part. I called Perfecto, and they were really nice, they said the cause was probably the high lighting. I'm still not sure how this doesn't happen to every reefer especially given the short time period. I'm thinking there might have been multiple factors at work like maybe a weaker than normal area on the trim.

They said the brown (oak) trim tanks are more prone to UV damage, that the black trim tanks have a UV inhibitor, carbon or something, in them. That right there is interesting info that I hadn't heard before. But that the black wasn't "uv-proof", just more resistant. Since mine seems to have cracks in non-stressed points, and I've seen a lot of UV damaged plastic (like if you leave things outside in the sun, or plastic trim in old cars), and it seems a lot like that. Just broken down, sometimes even crumbly but at least brittle.

I asked them about painting it to protect it from UV and they said it might work but the paint might attack the plastic too. Personally I think some of that krylon fusion paint would probably be fine.

The trim is a "large" item to ship so I'm trying to get one from my LFS since I guess it's cheaper for them to ship through a distributor than for me to order direct and make a special shipment.

On another front, I'm looking to see if I can buy a piece of 1/2" thick (or so) glass that I can cut and silicone in as a center brace. If this works out, I won't need the new trim, unless I inspect mine further and it seems weakened on the edge instead of just the center brace attachment area. I found a place online that can probably do it (and temper it, and probably have better edges than me), but the shipping again was very high (and this is a smaller piece), so maybe I can find a local shop to do it, or I can cut it myself if I could find the raw glass to cut it from (having them temper it would be nicer tho)
 
This seems to be a not uncommon problem. I had the exact same thing happen on my 72 bowfront (All-glass) which had been up about 6 years. It had black trim and had been under metal halides the whole time. I took the opportunity to upgrade to a 90. I have seen a few other posts on center brace failures in the same spot on different types of tanks so I don't know that it is specific to bowfronts. I am still looking for a clear and easy solution to prevent this from happening again.
 
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