Treating ich with Prazi-Pro

[terryagi]

Has anyone used Prazi-Pro to treat ich? My LFS suggested it to me, but I see that it is primarily used to treat flukes, worms, etc.


I am aware of the "best" way to treat ich by letting the main tank run fallow for 6-8 weeks while treating the fish in a quarantine tank, but I am wondering if anyone has any experience using Prazi-Pro for ich.

 

[Stuart60611]

I am in the process of treating both ich and flukes. I first treated the flukes with prazipro which had no effect on the ich. As such, I would suggest that prazipro is not effective against ich.

 

[agreeive?fish]

same comment as stuart60611 i was treating my display tank for flukes with prazipro..my tank got an MAJOR ick outbreak during the treatment.so i ended up treating for ick after the fluke treatment...prazipro does nothing to fight ick...

 

[bertmauricio]

You can use Cupramine and Prazi together safely to fight both. I've done it on 2 occasions and the both fish came out fine. Search the disease forums for more info.

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1455447

 

[terryagi]

Thanks everyone.

 

[sminker]

natural is the only way to go. chemicals stress fish, and who knows if they are really working.

ive never used any chemicals. a well maintained tank is the key to happy healthy fish, not saying yours is bad but diseases and ich can come from just about anything and primarily show when a fish gets stressed (like new fish). ive probably bought and sold 30+ centerpiece type fish (not counting schoolers) in the last 5-6 years. gotten ich a few times from newly introduced fish (i dont like QT'ing). it has always cleared up in a few weeks. not a single one has died. im a nut when it comes to maintenance, i cant remember the last water change i missed. i also feed my fish by hand everytime. it helps with stress. they will not get frightened when you do maintenance, seem to almost get excited when you come around, and mine will follow my hand around in the tank, annoying when moving rocks though.

sorry for the ramble, im just really against chemicals. but i do love stuff like hypo salinity, garlic, feeding more, using salt in freshwater, and tempature changes. all natural and have been used for GENERATIONS.

 

[terryagi]

Thanks. I decided against using the Prazi-Pro, and I decided I would do frequent water changes and wait it out. I had succcess treating ich this way in freshwater, but I wasn't sure how this would work in saltwater since the parasites are not the same. I'm glad to read that you've had success using this method. Thanks again!

 

[troyman]

i had a hippo tang with ick nothing worked to cure him guess what did i started putting garlic extreme from kent in their frozen food let it soak awhile it worked he dont have a spot on him no other fish does either i increased feedings

 

[sminker]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13515000#post13515000 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by troyman
i had a hippo tang with ick nothing worked to cure him guess what did i started putting garlic extreme from kent in their frozen food let it soak awhile it worked he dont have a spot on him no other fish does either i increased feedings

thats they way to do... good ol' TLC and garlic and you are good to go.

i use that garlic extreme with every feeding.

 

[sjs07]

How often do you do your water changes?

 

[Deinonych]

natural is the only way to go. chemicals stress fish, and who knows if they are really working.

There is empirical evidence that copper treatments like Cupramine eradicate the ich parasite. I have yet to see the same for garlic or other holistic treatments.

 

[MrTuskfish]

There is empirical evidence that copper treatments like Cupramine eradicate the ich parasite. I have yet to see the same for garlic or other holistic treatments.

Exactly right. Not properly quarantining and keeping out has probably ruined the hobby for more folks than anything i can think of. Sure, once in a while someone will have success without a QT and ignoring ich. Usually, it catches up with them. The disease forum has a non-stop parade of folks who thought garlic, vitamins, UV, just good water, ec. would get rid of ich.

There is some terrible info on this thread. I suggest the OP ask a Mod move it to the fish disease forum.

 

[tanked37]

There is some terrible info on this thread. I suggest the OP ask a Mod move it to the fish disease forum.

+1 On the terrible info. Does Prazipro even claim to fight ich? The answer is no. Treating ich with water changes? If that worked would ich even be a problem? Also garlic doesn't cure ich. If you think it did, then your fish didn't have ich. Probably had lymphocystis. Stop the misinformation guys. Hyposalinity or Copper cures ich. That's it.

 

[gone fishin]

Exactly right. Not properly quarantining and keeping out has probably ruined the hobby for more folks than anything i can think of. Sure, once in a while someone will have success without a QT and ignoring ich. Usually, it catches up with them. The disease forum has a non-stop parade of folks who thought garlic, vitamins, UV, just good water, ec. would get rid of ich.

There is some terrible info on this thread. I suggest the OP ask a Mod move it to the fish disease forum.

So your saying if I wait for the full moon,put garlic in the tank, change the water then dance around the tank naked while chanting it will not do anything for the ich.

Interesting very interesting.

read the stickies in the disease forum especially ones written by Snorvich. Follow those treatment protocols or you will just keep battling ich. just my 2 cents

 

[MrTuskfish]

So your saying if I wait for the full moon,put garlic in the tank, change the water then dance around the tank naked while chanting it will not do anything for the ich.

Interesting very interesting.

read the stickies in the disease forum especially ones written by Snorvich. Follow those treatment protocols or you will just keep battling ich. just my 2 cents

This will work well only if you use UV to see while you're taking clothes off.

 

[gone fishin]

I knew I would need a UV some day.

 

[SeedlessOne]

This thread gave me a headache. Some really poor advice was given.

Sorry OP. Hopefully you didn't take some of the advise given in this thread. Mr Turkfish is a good source and he won't steer you wrong.

 

[pr12]

There is empirical evidence that copper treatments like Cupramine eradicate the ich parasite. I have yet to see the same for garlic or other holistic treatments.

There is evidence that garlic is BAD for fish, start at post 24 of this thread
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2287725&highlight=garlic

 

[MrTuskfish]

There is evidence that garlic is BAD for fish, start at post 24 of this thread
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2287725&highlight=garlic

+1

There is quite a bit of legitimate research around that shows long-term garlic use can cause liver (and other) problems in fish. There is nothing but anecdotal accounts linking garlic to curing anything. There is plenty of good research showing this. Garlic MAY (I doubt it) help appetite a little; but, if it does, its a long-term benefit. IMO, garlic has developed an almost cult-like status and many hobbyists just throw garlic at any sign of a problem and expect some sort of miracle.

 

[MrClam]

Funny read. Noob to saltwater, but I see a similar line of thought in work. You would be surprised how many people wont accept chemo because "chemicals are bad for you" and then proceed to treat their invasive tumor with acupuncture and by having someone adjust their fourth shakra.

Not saying holistic medicine is bad/inferior. But almost universally it is simply without any objective evidence. Sure, garlic may have some immune benefits in fish, but where are you getting that info, besides the company selling you the garlic?