Tridacna Gigas

surgemaker

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Hi all,
I have a 75 gallon, 24 inches high with 6 inches of sand. How much lighting do I need to grow tridacna Gigas (app.13-15 inches) and Maxima (app.10 inches). Currently I have 2 X 175 watts metal halide and 2 X 110 watts uri VHO's. I'm looking at upgrading my metal halides to 250 watts per bulb and use 12,000K bulb. I also have a calcium reactor to keep my calcium level high. What other things I need to consider before getting these clams? what about fish? what type of fish will get along with clams? TIA~christian
 
In regard to light, your tank sounds just fine, either with the 175W or the 250W MHs.

Some other considerations:

Gigas clams come from deeper water than croceas or maximas, so do not require quite as much light. Under any wattage of MH in a standard-depth tank, they can be placed on the sand and receive enough light. They are found in the wild on sand, so placing them directly on the substrate is the most natural placement.

Because of the deeper water habitat, these clams do fine under the higher color temp bulbs (7100K, 10000K), whereas some will argue that the maximas and croceas need the 5500 or 6500K lights because they originate in shallower water, where they receive a fuller spectrum of daylight.

If you keep clams, especially one that grows as big as quickly as a gigas, you'll need to make sure your calcium is high and your alk is in the right range. Dosing heavily with kalk does the trick for me.

Fishes to avoid are any that will eat corals (even sometimes) such as angels and some wrasses (however, Coris gaimard wrasses are often kept in clam aquaculture tanks because they eat pyramid snails, which prey on clams). Snails that prey on other mollusks, such as tulips and murexes, are to be avoided.

Some recommend an occasional feeding with DTs or some other plankton substitute, as clams do filter-feed to some extent. Knop claims this is necessary, Tullock, Baensch, and Fenner do not agree.

Also, if possible, make sure you get an aquacultured gigas, as they are becoming threatened in the wild. They are harvested extensively for food in many eastern countries. If you go this route you will be unlikely to find one that big.

Much of the above is true for maximas, although they will need to be much closer to the light.

Keep in mind that a gigas that big might be a little too big for your tank. 13-15 inches is one monster clam (I have on about 9" long). A clam that big will suck all the nitrates out of your water (they absorb nitrates from the water column for food in addition to relying on their zooxanthallae and filter-feeding), and you might have to supplement the nitrates in some way. Also, it will be a BIG calcium draw, and you might not be able to replace enough evaporrated water to make up for the depleted calcium. A way to increase evap so that you can drip more kalk is to aim a fan at your sump. This will drop your temperature somewhat, so you'll have to turn up the heaters to compensate.

HTH
 
T. gigas is one fast growing clam. I got mine Christmas 1998 about 2 inches, today he is about 12 inches. For sure, if you give it good condition, a T. gigas will aout growth your tank in no time at all.
 
Hey Tanks a lot for the info. I'm getting my clams this tuesday from MMDC in Palau and they are cultured like you said. I'm upgrading my lighting to 250 watts. What about fish compatibility? Right now I have a Moorish Idol, midium size Emperator (adult) and a lemon peel. Will they get along with the clams?.
I came back today from Italy and Paris. I saw a huge reef tank in one of the SONY buildings in Paris. I happened to pass by and saw a bright light and I automaticaly assumed that it was a reef tank. I walked inside the buildings lobby and saw a 500 gallon reef. WOW lots of corals from Tahiti and Tonga, and yah! GIANT CLAMS!!!!!!
 
I don't know about the moorish idol (I think it is said to eat sponges and such in the wild, not sure), but you might find that the angels will harrass or try to eat the clam. Sometimes angels can be troublesome in the reef or clam tank, although I cannot say for sure, as I do not have any angels. I would guess the Imperator angel will be a problem.

Hopefully someone with more experience with angels will address this question.
 
HFF,
I actually have a small T. maxima in my tank and I have never seen anyone bother her. I assumed the lemon peel will when she gets bigger. I guessed I have to find a new home for her! ~christian
 
angel???

angel???

I had a flame angel that loved to eat my clams. It would pester them enough that they would not open. I would not risk the clam with a lager version of that fish. I guess you need another tank:)

I should mention that it took the angel a few weeks to figure out how palatable the clams were.
 
herefishiefishie said:

Fishes to avoid are any that will eat corals (even sometimes) such as angels and some wrasses (however, Coris gaimard wrasses are often kept in clam aquaculture tanks because they eat pyramid snails, which prey on clams). Snails that prey on other mollusks, such as tulips and murexes, are to be avoided.



That should be juvenile Coris gaimard, Knop 1996 p107. People have had *some* success with other less aggressive species of wrasse as pyramid predators, but I think it's hit or miss.


Some recommend an occasional feeding with DTs or some other plankton substitute, as clams do filter-feed to some extent. Knop claims this is necessary, Tullock, Baensch, and Fenner do not agree.


It's my understanding that clams under four inches in length, should be offered planktonic food.
 
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Hey Surgemaker,
How did you get in contact with MMDC?
What type of clams did you get?
How much were they?
What is the relative air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Thanks,
Bill
 
It could grasp it by the shell!!

It's not a question of grip, there is simply no way a two ounce swallow could carry a 2 pound clam all the way from Palau!!


Sorry, I couldn't resist!

Adam
 
I have a coral beauty and it has never touched my squamosa clam. I'm sure a big angel would though.

They take up TONS of calcium. Mine is like 3.5" and just sucks it up.
 
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