Triggers?

It's not really fair to stereotype the bt's like that. It is well known that all fish have different personalities. A fish will absolutely behave differently depending on it's environment. I respect you as a very knowledgeable source for triggers. I've seen your tanks, and you obviously have mounds of experience. I just disagree with you on this point. Especially since I've seen just as many posts about outgoing BT's as I have about shy BT's. I'm sure there are some shy BT's out there. I have no doubt about that, but not all of them are shy...

If you took a mean hyena and threw it into a lions den, it'd turn into a wimp real quick. That doesn't mean that hyenas are wimpy. Any animal has a trait of being a wimp if put into the wrong situation. Any animal can be a bully as well whether they have said trait or not.
 
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CedzAquAddictio said:
It's not really fair to stereotype the bt's like that. It is well known that all fish have different personalities. A fish will absolutely behave differently depending on it's environment. I respect you as a very knowledgeable source for triggers. I've seen your tanks, and you obviously have mounds of experience. I just disagree with you on this point. Especially since I've seen just as many posts about outgoing BT's as I have about shy BT's. I'm sure there are some shy BT's out there. I have no doubt about that, but not all of them are shy...

If you took a mean hyena and threw it into a lions den, it'd turn into a wimp real quick. That doesn't mean that hyenas are wimpy. Any animal has a trait of being a wimp if put into the wrong situation. Any animal can be a bully as well whether they have said trait or not.
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BJs are, by far, the most reclusive and boring Trigger I've ever owned. You cannot compensate for a fish's genetic make-up with different tank conditions.
 
You all are missing my point, but that's cool. To each his own...

I'll just go home and look at my reclusive BJs all night long. Every time they swim the entire length of the tank, and explore, I'll be sure to remind them that they should be hiding.
 
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You all are missing my point, but that's cool. To each his own...

I'll just go home and look at my reclusive BJs all night long. Every time they swim the entire length of the tank, and explore, I'll be sure to remind them that they should be hiding.
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you don't get it...you have the exception, it happens...
here is another exception, my male bt- currently displaying female coloration, 5 inches, and tough as nails, takes on my 9 inch cinereus...but this is another exception...in 30 years of focusing on trigs and living in Hawaii for a year to study trigs and reading everything about them I know that the typical behavior of a bt is to be shy, reclusive and avoid things it does not enjoy...
 
I'm not debating anything. But I have Red tail trigger that hovers in the middle of my tank and waits for me like a dog. When I go to the tank he follows me all around. But when he wants to be fed he will swim up to the spot I put the food in the tank.then back down to eye level then back to where I put the food in. Very cool and smart fish. As for invert safe so far so good. My cleaner shrimps make me cringe when I watch them scurry across the bottom of my tank in the open. I know it's only a matter of time with them being so brazen.
 
that is the "typical" trigger behavior that makes many of us fall in love with triggers...
however, bt have the habit of not always acting like your "typical" trigger and more often than not it leads to owner frustration...
 
All I know is mine loves me he is very curious as to what I do to the tank. He always comes out to see. He may hid from strangers but that doesn't make me love him any less.
 
Back to trigger questions. I have been thinking about adding a Niger trigger also. Will it get along with my blue jaw and cleaner shrimps. Are the more or less shy on average?

Tank: 150 gallons SPS/LPS

Fish: blue jaw trigger
Flame angel
5@ chromis
Inverts: 3@ skunk banded cleaner
4 mid size hermits
20 small hermits
2star fish
1 derasa clam
3 starfish
 
the trigs will prob eventually eat the shrimp, hermits, clams and starfish...the niger might even go after the chromis...
 
Hey adam you wrote in your list of fish 2 starfish and than 3 starfish. Do you have a 5 or was it a typo and what type of starfish do you have? Im thinking about adding a starfish to my reef.
 
I have two sand sifting starfish and one little red one. Sorry for the delay I was out of the country.

I love my sand sifting star fish the do a great job in my clean up crew.
 
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