TTM and quarantine with ich

[Blu3s94]

Ok so I understand TTM just fine. I am going to get a 40 and 20 gallon from a member here.

I have a 125 gallon with 2 of the 6 fish affected with ich. Planning on doing TTM then quarantine to allow DT fallow for at least 6 weeks. Here's the problem... After doing TTM I will have to leave fish in the 40 for an additional 4-6 weeks. It's not cycled.... I am not prepared to do water changes everyday. What do people do after TTM? Am I going to have to run a 3rd tank running and cycled before I even start this. Can't use anything from DT to cycle because the tank already has ich...


With my fish load: melanurus wrasse, yellow tang, kole tang, foxface, and 2 clowns I'm sure the 40 would spike quickly. For TTM I will dose with prime to be safe. But I don't think dosing with prime for 4 to 6 weeks is the answer. Or is it?

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[Lsufan]

Imo u will have to do one or the other. Eighther get a qt cycled or u will have to rely on water changes. It won't be cheap but maybe u can buy some liverock from a LFS to get in a qt so it will cycle quickly. It will have to be more then a couple of lbs of rock to do what u need though.

That is a bunch of fish, so I would expect the ammonia to spike daily if u can't get a qt cycled.

Also, I would recommend letting the tank go fallow for closer to 10 weeks. Although not likely, they do have some strains of ich that may still be present after 6 weeks. It would be really disappointing to go fallow for 6 weeks & when u reintroduce the fish the ich still be present & have to start over.

 

[Blu3s94]

Imo u will have to do one or the other. Eighther get a qt cycled or u will have to rely on water changes. It won't be cheap but maybe u can buy some liverock from a LFS to get in a qt so it will cycle quickly. It will have to be more then a couple of lbs of rock to do what u need though.

That is a bunch of fish, so I would expect the ammonia to spike daily if u can't get a qt cycled.

Also, I would recommend letting the tank go fallow for closer to 10 weeks. Although not likely, they do have some strains of ich that may still be present after 6 weeks. It would be really disappointing to go fallow for 6 weeks & when u reintroduce the fish the ich still be present & have to start over.

So I now have to buy 3 tanks, 3 heaters etc .. and wait a month+ to even start treating my fish. Sbhdidjdjdkdkdood damn this hobby

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[scuzy]

You can do the ttm in plastic totes. Does not needs to be tanks.


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[JustinM]

I didn't have time to cycle a QT so I stuck with water changes till it cycled, I also had cupramine in the water which was hurt the biological filtration a bit. Sometimes it just is what it is. It took about two weeks for me so maybe a little sooner since you're doing ttm first.

Fwiw, I had 14 fish in a 40 for qt. One being a tang and the other a large angel. Use a seachem ammonia alert badge to monitor it. Best of luck.

 

[thegrun]

Buy some DRY rock, put it in a tank or container with saltwater, add Dr. Tim's One and Only and you will have a cycled tank in three days or less.

 

[MG98]

Buy some DRY rock, put it in a tank or container with saltwater, add Dr. Tim's One and Only and you will have a cycled tank in three days or less.

+1. Easiest and cheapest solution.

 

[hkgar]

When I got ick in the DT I removed all coral and inverts to another tank with purchased live rock and than treated the fish in the display with the hypo method. You might want to consider it. Bring the salinity back from 1.09 slowly does require a lot of water changes.

I chose it because it was impossible to catch all the fish without completely breaking the tank down.

 

[Lsufan]

U can get a qt cycled pretty quickly, so by the time the two week ttm is over it can hopefully be cycled.

Liverock from the lfs would be the most expensive, but probably the best way to get it cycled. It wouldn't be the most practical having to spend a couple hundred dollars on liverock.

Dr.tims would be way cheaper but people have used it with mixed results. I have used it a couple of times & it didn't really cycle the tank that much faster, but what it did do was get the water to where ammonia wouldn't poison the fish. What it did was convert the ammonia to nitrite within a couple of days, but it still took a month for the nitrite to convert to nitrate. In saltwater nitrite isn't that toxic unless it gets to really high levels, so as long as u keep a eye on it & not let it get extremely high the fish should be ok.

When I was in the same situation as u I went the dr.tims route, but I was also able to take some liverock from my other setup that didn't have ich. I never register ammonia but I did have some nitrite for the majority of the 8 weeks the fish where in the tank. I was able to get away with only doing a water change once or twice a week

 

[Blu3s94]

U can get a qt cycled pretty quickly, so by the time the two week ttm is over it can hopefully be cycled.

Liverock from the lfs would be the most expensive, but probably the best way to get it cycled. It wouldn't be the most practical having to spend a couple hundred dollars on liverock.

Dr.tims would be way cheaper but people have used it with mixed results. I have used it a couple of times & it didn't really cycle the tank that much faster, but what it did do was get the water to where ammonia wouldn't poison the fish. What it did was convert the ammonia to nitrite within a couple of days, but it still took a month for the nitrite to convert to nitrate. In saltwater nitrite isn't that toxic unless it gets to really high levels, so as long as u keep a eye on it & not let it get extremely high the fish should be ok.

When I was in the same situation as u I went the dr.tims route, but I was also able to take some liverock from my other setup that didn't have ich. I never register ammonia but I did have some nitrite for the majority of the 8 weeks the fish where in the tank. I was able to get away with only doing a water change once or twice a week

Yeah there's no way I can find live rock without ich... pretty much every store has ich in there tanks it seems like. I could use dry rock as mentioned above. But it wouldn't be any different than using a large power filter with media.



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[scooter31707]

There is plenty of hobbyist, including myself that don't use a cycle QT. I just have a heater, airstone, ammonia badge, and PVC. Just keep up with water quality and don't overfeed, you will be good.

 

[dxdoan]

There is plenty of hobbyist, including myself that don't use a cycle QT. I just have a heater, airstone, ammonia badge, and PVC. Just keep up with water quality and don't overfeed, you will be good.

Perfect answer!
Definitely invest in an ammonia badge and change water accordingly.
You don't have to change the water everyday if you monitor the badge.

 

[sde1500]

Uncycled QT, ammonia badge, prime and water changes. You should be fine.