Tunze owners I need some advice please!!

[kalgra]

So I am setting up a 60 gallon anemone cube and while im definitely a Vortech lover I feel in this particular application a couple Tunze nano streams will suit me better.

The tank will have a custom stand and hood with a back that will make it difficult to align the MP10s I was going to use. I think I may have to move them around a bit until the nems get settled. For this reason as well as maintenance I went ahead and purchased a couple nano stream pumps.

So here are my questions. I want to run them on a 7092 controller but it looks like the controller uses a proprietary plug to connect to the pumps. My pumps just have a standard receptacle plug on the end.

Tunzes web site says that the 7092 works with "ALL" turbelle pumps which mine have printed on them.

So how do I connect them to the controller?
Do they have an adapter I just cant seem to find online?
Did I buy the wrong pumps and mine are not controllable?
If I cannot use a Tunze controller can I just use one of the hydor wave makers with these pumps?
Does Tunze make some little socks to go over the pumps like Ecotech does in case one of the nems decides to take a walk into one of the pumps?

Another thought was a Tunze nano wave box but I hear from others that the wave box wouldn't work well on a smaller cube like this. Any ideas on that?

This is the stand for reference as you can see positioning the MPs on the back would be a pain where moving the Tunzes I can just slide them around.

 

[anarchyx914]

So how do I connect them to the controller?

The Tunze Controller comes with the cables to connect the Tunze pumps, I am 99% sure of this.

Do they have an adapter I just cant seem to find online?

See above.

Did I buy the wrong pumps and mine are not controllable?

Your pumps need to say they are actually controllable.. I think the smallest ones are 6095s (approx $270ea). These pumps actually have power packs that come with them because they are DC. The pump plugs into the power pack and then the power pack plugs into the wall. There is also an output on the power pack for the special plug which can be used for the tunze controller, or what I did with my Apex.

If I cannot use a Tunze controller can I just use one of the hydor wave makers with these pumps?

Hydor wave makers I believe need to be used w/ hydor pumps, however I had a wavemaker and it just accepted a standard 110v plug, no special wires needed.

Does Tunze make some little socks to go over the pumps like Ecotech does in case one of the nems decides to take a walk into one of the pumps?

Not that I am aware of, but these are not that hard to engineer yourself.

Another thought was a Tunze nano wave box but I hear from others that the wave box wouldn't work well on a smaller cube like this. Any ideas on that?

I have no experience here.

 

[jkcoon]

yeah, the controller doesn't work on "all"... rather "all controllable"... what model Tunzes did you buy?

 

[kalgra]

yeah, the controller doesn't work on "all"... rather "all controllable"... what model Tunzes did you buy?

I believe they are the 6045s

 

[kalgra]

yeah, the controller doesn't work on "all"... rather "all controllable"... what model Tunzes did you buy?

So how do I connect them to the controller?

The Tunze Controller comes with the cables to connect the Tunze pumps, I am 99% sure of this.

Do they have an adapter I just cant seem to find online?

See above.

Did I buy the wrong pumps and mine are not controllable?

Your pumps need to say they are actually controllable.. I think the smallest ones are 6095s (approx $270ea). These pumps actually have power packs that come with them because they are DC. The pump plugs into the power pack and then the power pack plugs into the wall. There is also an output on the power pack for the special plug which can be used for the tunze controller, or what I did with my Apex.

If I cannot use a Tunze controller can I just use one of the hydor wave makers with these pumps?

Hydor wave makers I believe need to be used w/ hydor pumps, however I had a wavemaker and it just accepted a standard 110v plug, no special wires needed.

Does Tunze make some little socks to go over the pumps like Ecotech does in case one of the nems decides to take a walk into one of the pumps?

Not that I am aware of, but these are not that hard to engineer yourself.

Another thought was a Tunze nano wave box but I hear from others that the wave box wouldn't work well on a smaller cube like this. Any ideas on that?

I have no experience here.

My pumps do not appear to be DC as the standard 110 plug just comes straight off the pumps. So perhaps that answers my question, I assume controllable pumps are usually if not always DC. The hydor wave maker i am referring to just plugs into standard 110 socket plugs. So I think the question there is can the Tunze pumps I have handle an on /off 110 pulse?

 

[anarchyx914]

My pumps do not appear to be DC as the standard 110 plug just comes straight off the pumps. So perhaps that answers my question, I assume controllable pumps are usually if not always DC. The hydor wave maker i am referring to just plugs into standard 110 socket plugs. So I think the question there is can the Tunze pumps I have handle an on /off 110 pulse?

I had the hydors and hated them -- they were annoying because they click everytime they turn off. They are not DC Pumps. The hydor controller just acts like an on/off switch rather than a controllable switch. This also hurts pump life some say because they are not designed to be turned on/off like that.

I would have to guess that the answer to your question is no. If you want controllable pumps that can be rapidly turned on/off you need controllable pumps. The non-DC pumps are designed to be permanent on, not continually cycled to make waves every 3-5 seconds.

 

[jkcoon]

My pumps do not appear to be DC as the standard 110 plug just comes straight off the pumps. So perhaps that answers my question, I assume controllable pumps are usually if not always DC. The hydor wave maker i am referring to just plugs into standard 110 socket plugs. So I think the question there is can the Tunze pumps I have handle an on /off 110 pulse?

Yep... think you just hit on the answer too... the controllable pumps are 12VDC, so you'd have the transformer and they are typically a lot more expensive. I have four 6055's, I use three and one is an older version i use to trade-out during cleaning. I run them with my apex and am very pleased with them.

 

[kalgra]

Well Kaka! looks like I will be buying some new pumps.

Thanks for the input

 

[rtparty]

The 6045s are not controllable. It starts at the 6055.

Turning any non controllable pump on off on off will damage them over time. Some people get luckier than others but they all fail eventually.

 

[shifty51008]

according to tunze you can turn the non controllable pumps on and off but they suggest no less then 15 min. on/off cycles.

if you want the controllable pumps I would suggest the 6095's rather than the 6055's as they have a wider flow.

 

[Pseudo69]

If it is an anemone tank then stick to the 6055 not the 6095. A pair of 6095 are way to powerful for a 60g tank with just anemone in it. They are meant more for sps.

 

[alton]

A friend had a cube with a nano wavebox and it worked great

 

[RickyRicardo]

You can't use the wave box by itself, everything I read recommends to also have a pump for flow as all the wave box does is keep nutrients and detritus in the water column by creating a surge current in the tank.

 

[kalgra]

So I ended up solving my problem by going with a couple Sea Swirls instead. I had all but forgotten about the Sea Swirl. I think there are still a few scenarios out there where they work really well.

Thanks for everybody's input I really appreciate it.