Upgrading/Downgrading/Tank Moving

demeyer2

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My friend had a 40 gallon set up established for 4-5 months, different corals, and a few fish. After he had his tank for about a month I bought a tank (a 10 gallon set up that quickly turned to a 20). We both live in the dorms, so, over christmas break, we had to move our tanks back to our houses...As pain staking as it was everything went fine. My friend had actually bought a stand and canopy, housing a 175 W MH and two Actinic PCs, for his 40 gallon, but the dimensions for the stand were, unfortuantely, wrong for his tank, so he deciding to keep the stand a buy a new tank.
He went from a 40 to a 29 with out a hitch, just a little extra water. And my 20 stayed just fine as well. The tanks were both set up at our houses for 1 month, my 20 with a pair of black ocellaris and the later addition of a bicolor blenny, and his 29 with a pair of percs.
So now it is time to move our tanks back into the dorms, however, with the small shared rooms that we recieve, a stand is not very practical, so my friend decided, since we already had all the equipment needed for an easy 15 set up, to downgrade again (temporarily) into a 15 gallon. The sand bed was stirred in the process of moving. That was last Saturday, two days ago, and much to our dismay, he has lost one of his clownfish and the other one looks rather unhealthy...
This Saturday is my turn to move my tank, that only difference is that I had planned to move into his old 40 gallon.
My 40 gallon will consist of over half full of uncycled water (so it would kind of be like a 55% water change). It will also have about 30-40 pounds of base rock added to my 20 pounds of LR. My sand bed will be stirred, but about 50% of it will be new sand.
We are fairly certain that his tank cycled/is cycling again, but I don't understand why it would cycle now and not cycle when I moved my 20, or when he moved his 40 down to a 29. This is the big question, but other questions that I have are:
Is my tank, during the upgrade, going to cycle?
Is there some precautionary things that I should do?
 
My first questions would be what are the test results he gets now? Did he have LR in it? If so how much? Did he have issues with NO3 before?

My thought is that the reduced water volume has concentrated things and the fish aren't responding well.
 
The first time ya'll moved, did you disturb the sand bed....if not thats why your tank didnt cycle the 1st time.

The 2nd time you disturbed the sandbed which brought all the gunk out of the bed and put it into your water column....

If you plan on disturbing your bed again, then you will have to watch for another cycle....If you dont disturb the bed then you wont have a cycle, and your fish will be fine...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6526015#post6526015 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by demeyer2
how to you move sand from one tank to another without disturbing it?

Depends on the size of the tank...if its like a 10 or 20g then you just drain all the water out and leave the sand in the tank and move it.(Ive done this with no ill effects, but have given enough support for the bottom of the tank while moving it. I probably wouldnt recommend moving anything bigger with sand in it.)

Then you just place a plate or bowl on top of the sand after moving and pour your saltwater into the dish, slowly....This wont disturb your sandbed and wont cause your tank to recycle.

If your moving bigger tanks, then there really is no way to stop disturbing the bed...its a half to...what you can do is minimize the damage done, by having plenty of saltwater made up and do waterchanges as needed to keep the ammonia down...
 
well i had to put my sand from my 29 to my 15, so i scooped it out which obviously disturbed it, is there any other way?
 
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